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In the military
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you're taught to do more with less so
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within business model.
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and within my business model,
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I pretty much did the same thing.
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And I believe that's
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what kind of made me successful
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within
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My first couple of years
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is because
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we really did more with less
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All right.
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So Kern Alexander
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is with the higher collection.
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He is also he's also served our country.
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So he's a businessman.
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He's a serviceman
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and it's an honor
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to have him on the show.
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Kern, how are you doing, man?
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Awe man I'm doing good.
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Thank you so much for having me
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today, man.
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No problem. No problem
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A pleasure to have you.
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And you're out of Oakland,
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California, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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My business is based out of
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Oakland, California.
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All right.
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So how does one go from
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serving our country?
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And thank you for that to jumping into
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owning a dispensary?
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And like, how does that?
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How does that happen?
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How did that happen, though?
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Those, you know,
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those seem to be very different fields.
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How did they get to collide?
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Yeah, I'm just curious how we started.
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Just jump right in.
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How does one do that.
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How do you get there.
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How this path looked
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Well,
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what happened was, um,
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I was based in California
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a lot of my career.
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I started my career in 2007,
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and my first duty station was in Travis
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Air Force Base,
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which is in Northern California.
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So I kind of had roots there
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since about 2007.
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Now throughout my time
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being in the military.
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Of course,
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you know,
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you get deployed all over the place,
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but I've always seem
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to come back to California.
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It was like always my place
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where I would come back to.
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So even when I got stationed overseas,
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I would come back.
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I got stationed elsewhere
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and I still came back. So,
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you know, I got out
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and my path wasn't really paved.
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You know,
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at first I
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I knew that I didn't want to go back
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to doing what I was doing before,
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which is pretty much overworking myself
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for the government.
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I knew
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I wanted to kind of
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take that leap of faith
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and get out there on my own.
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So one of my buddies, he had a cannabis
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dispensary back in the day in 2015.
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This was more like the medicinal model.
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Back in the day 2015.
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That's now back in the day.
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But go ahead, right?
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Well, I don't.
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I'll tell you this so much has changed.
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I know, right? Right.
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I tell people like we got like
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COVID has changed like time.
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You know, there used to be AC BC
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and now it's like.
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And now it's like a
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a AC BC after COVID, before COVID.
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And like, before Covid Right? I.
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And that's real life thing
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I feel like two years of my life
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has just been missing.
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I don't even know what really.
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It just went so fast.
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You know what I mean?
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Doesn't seem like two years
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I tell people, the last two years
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it felt like 15.
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Like it's like
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feels like a time warp, bro.
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But anyway, I digress. Go ahead.
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Yeah, but but yeah.
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So essentially back in 2015,
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it was more like a
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medicinal model in the cannabis space
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where you could have like collectives.
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So my buddy kind of did his thing
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and he started his collectives,
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so he kind of hit me up.
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He was like, Yo bro, what you doing?
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Now that you out.
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You know you should hop into the cannabis
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hop in the cannabis space.
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At first,
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I was against it
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because my job in the military I was
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I worked intelligence.
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So for me, you know, we kind of
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we I try to do things
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the right way, right?
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So for me, a lot of times.
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So you got a lot of stuff you can't discuss with us
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Oh, sure. Yeah.
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But but, you know,
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getting into the cannabis space,
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it was just it was
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it was a learning curve.
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So at first, I didn't jump right in,
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you know, I was a student.
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I became a student to my boy,
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learned the ways of
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how it actually worked.
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And then, um, I became a patient.
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That's really
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what won me over to the space itself.
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I went into the VA
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as I said, I'm 100% disabled
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and I walked out
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with a bag full of medicine.
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Maybe maybe two bags full of medicine.
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A lot of it was Motrin,
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but a lot of it was upper and downer,
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kind of like psychotics, you know,
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or psychoactive.
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So I didn't really want to put myself
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through that
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after having to put myself
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through taking pills
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throughout my whole career already.
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So I actually sat down
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with a cannabis doctor
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and they gave me alternatives
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for PTSD, alternatives for anxiety,
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lack of sleep.
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I wasn't sleeping
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my sleep schedules, all jacked up.
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So so that that's really
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what won me over.
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I decided to just become an advocate
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for it in a positive manner,
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you know, because in 2015 it was,
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you know,
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everybody was looking at it like a.
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My God, you're you know,
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you're a drug dealer.
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but for real
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Yeah, I know it's how.
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They were looking at it, I remember.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you know, for me, I had to like,
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put a positive spin on it
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and actually show
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that this drug can actually help me,
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and it can actually wean people
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off of the things that
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people were stuck on.
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So spoke with
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that cannabis doctor changed my life.
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Pretty much.
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I'm of the belief.
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You know, so sorry to interrupt you.
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I'm of the belief
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that as controversial opinion.
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But I believe it.
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Like,
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I think most drugs should be legalized
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and regulated because it's
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when it goes underground.
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That's when we create a new
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criminal element.
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It helps that thrive.
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I mean, there
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obviously be some debates
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about other types of drugs.
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Certainly, marijuana has been
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has put more black
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and brown people in jail unnecessarily
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unnecessarily than any other substance,
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and it's been used as a reason.
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Exactly.
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And so what I like about you
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being involved
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is at least now
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some of us are participating
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in the opportunity
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to make a return
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because unfortunately,
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you are the exception to the rule.
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Most of the time,
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we're not
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we're not involved in the process.
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We don't have an opportunity
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to be involved in the process
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unless we're
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in jail with
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some of us are still in jail for crimes
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related to marijuana,
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while mostly
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everyone else is benefiting from it.
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So I do applaud you for doing that.
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And then you
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know what we
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do too, is we try to help with education,
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you know,
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because what I learned being within
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a space is
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you don't know what you don't know.
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You know, like,
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you don't know those opportunities
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when those licenses open up.
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You don't know when
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those cities become legal.
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Or like how much the actual cost is.
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If people know the actual cost of things,
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sometimes they probably wouldn't.
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They probably wouldn't run away from it,
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you know, cost.
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In the beginning, it cost me about 2500.
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But now, you know,
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the cost has like
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almost tripled quadrupled
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in certain places
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to get within the space.
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So we try to push the education of
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getting in the medical space
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while we have the opportunity.
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While we have the opportunity exactly,
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because the medical space for me
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was the lowest point of entry
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and the easiest point of entry
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to get in when it became recreational.
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It was overpriced
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and then
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the barrier of entry became super high.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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I'll tell you, it's really
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when we talk about
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educating our community
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and entering at the point of
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where the opportunity is.
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Like you said, it's
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really, really important
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for a lot of things
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because that's where the
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that's where wealth
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opportunities are created.
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And if we're ever going to really address
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the racial wealth gap,
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we have to move on these opportunities
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as they present themselves.
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So that that's an example
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that you mentioned.
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I'm big in the space of Web3,
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I don't know if you know much about Web3.
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But yeah, yeah.
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And that's
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yeah, yeah, I've been checking on it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So we had the first black owned
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and NFT marketplace on the globe
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is built on flow
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blockchain called Disrupt Art.
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But I say that to say like,
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I'm working to onboard people
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because I don't want them to
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be excluded from this opportunity
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right now is a great time to get in.
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And just the opportunity
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is just ample, right?
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But it won't necessarily be
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that way in three to five years,
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you know, had you been an.
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No the barriers of entry are going to be
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Way too high like this show
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And then that
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and then even
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if not the barrier entry,
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the misconceptions to entry
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will be so rampant.
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Well, that's it.
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That's a really good point.
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The biggest misconception to entry,
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and I want to get back
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to your point of view very quickly here.
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But you know, the problem
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that people are stopping people
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a lot is two things
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is this block in their mind.
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It's either
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it's a I'm not a technical person,
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so I can't do that, which is not
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you don't have to be a technical person.
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I mean, you know how email works,
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you're not technical person.
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All you need to understand
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is how to think basic work one or two,
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everybody saying iIt's a fraud.
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Well I said all right?
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Listen,
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it's not a fraud,
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but it's 17 billion dollar
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has been created this year,
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so the best performing asset
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right now
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across the entire country, so right,
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if it's a fraud.
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You at least need to see what's going on
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where. People are going.
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Wow, right? Right. Like why?
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And it's not a fraud.
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But like getting people.
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I think that's also a trap we have in our minds
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Yeah that fear
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You know, we. It's fear
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We mentally block ourselves
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from opportunities
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before we even try them.
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You know, like a lot of times I like,
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I used to be in these clubhouse rooms
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and I would hear
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people like this discouraging people
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so much on entry into the cannabis space.
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And I'm like, Yes,
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people are like,
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Oh, you won't ever be able to get into
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the New York
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space is going to be too expensive.
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There's not even any rules.
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There's no rules to this space.
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What do you mean
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it's going to be too expensive?
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You know what I mean?
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Like,
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there are no legislation
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saying what that price tag is,
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but it's all a mental psyche out
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It's all a mental cycle.
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I think it's a lot of trauma
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passed down to so from.
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Oh, sure.
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Yeah, yeah, like
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so like this fear has been ingrained.
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Someone told me, OK,
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you've got to think even with my,
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my parents, you know, like.
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And like
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even on the successful with them,
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I feel there's still like
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like you, sure
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you want to deal with that,
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you know what I mean?
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Like, it's like a mental block,
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and I'm like, if they come for me,
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then they got to come.
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Everybody that's doing the same thing.
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That's a lot of people.
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I heard Gary B say this.
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Like he said, our parents have been great
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and they teach you a lot of great things
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and I'll take your values.
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But I'll apply my work
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approach and ethics
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like because we need to evolve, right?
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Like we got to.
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We take a lot of the values
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about being a good person
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about working hard.
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Yes, but we also can't take their mindset
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with us.
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We'll take our.
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Mindset, we'll take that.
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We'll have our value,
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we'll take their values
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and apply our mindset.
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And work mindset.
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Right. Right.
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Because their mindset is.
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Based upon a world that they know
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that it probably was an accurate mindset
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to have when they were growing up.
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It makes sense, right?
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Just the government
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said the same thing about the government.
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I don't understand
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why our government is
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ran by 80 year olds.
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They don't even understand
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the technology era.
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Like what?
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Well, it's because we allow it.
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The quick answer to that is that
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when people can become more involved,
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we'll see a change.
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But the answer to that
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is that 80 year
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old and 60 year olds
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vote and participate all the time, and.
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We participate.
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Sometimes and sometimes we get a power.
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Sometimes we don't I mean that's the answer
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I mean it's like we have.
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But you know, back to the
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point of that mindset,
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I do think that's very,
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very important
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for us to challenge
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the mindsets of some things
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that were passed.
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Again,
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values have been great
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in terms
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of working hard, taking
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care of your family, right?
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But the mindset,
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I'll give one example
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that I've said before.
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one of the mindsets that
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black community is passed down
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again and again and again
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is to work twice as hard.
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You've heard it to get what half as much?
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I'm like, No, half as much.
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No I;m like I work twice as hard
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and I expect twice as much.
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I mean, I won't be like this.
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I mean, llet me talk to white guys.
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They work twice as hard to expect
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ten times as much. That's what I want
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And then out,
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man, I got in the Air Force.
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Air Force taught me a whole new mantra.
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They said, Work harder,
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work smarter, not harder.
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So essentially,
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if you can make your mind, do it
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and put it together,
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there's no reason why
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you should be physically
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in the space doing it yourself, you know.
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Amen
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Yeah.
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Using that mind work
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smarter, not harder as well.
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Yeah, I'm
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definitely not going back to that.
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Old mindset you know
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You got everybody.
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Out here and running up the check.
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I can't do it.
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So tell me about transitioning
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from serving
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in the military to being an entrepreneur.
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It sounds like you did
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learn some good lessons about
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your mindset, but I imagine
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it had to be a little bit of a challenge,
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especially moving from
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a military schedule where you
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have essentially things mapped out
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in a very structured way.
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Then having to go out and you didn't,
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you didn't.
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You didn't just go get a job.
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You went to be an entrepreneur,
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which is really the
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diametrically opposite
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to having a structure.
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It's like you, you figure out.
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What you're structure is
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trying to create that structure.
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What was the challenge with that?
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Or was it or was it
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not a challenge
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because you had that structure
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kind of talk to you
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in the military, right?
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And that's exactly
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what I was going to say.
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So for me,
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I feel like the challenge came
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more on,
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like figuring out the business
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aspect of it.
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I think the discipline
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in putting in the hours,
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I already kind of learned that
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from the military
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in the military,
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you're taught to do more with less so
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within business model
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and within my business model,
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I pretty much did the same thing.
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And I believe that's
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what kind of made me successful
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within
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My first couple of years
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is because
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we really did more with less
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like I would be the dispatcher,
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the packer,
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the driver that dropped it off.
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I'm everything in the beginning,
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at least for the first year, year
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and a half it was on me, you know,
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and it would be so funny
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because people would call in
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and they're like,
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you know, Hey,
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I may have an issue with this product.
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I'm like, Hold on,
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let me get you to the manager
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and then I'm picking back up the phone.
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Hello.
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Did you change.
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Your voice like.
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oh of course of course
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Had to switch it up every now
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and then
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and change the voice
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or pass the phone
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to my shorty, and have my shorty talk
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But you know, like in the beginning,
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you got to do those different things
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because I'm like, for me,
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I didn't know how to create a payroll.
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I didn't know how to create budgets
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and things like that yet.
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So I had to really
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learn each aspect of the industry
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that I was in,
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just so that when it was time for me
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to put people in place, couldn't
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nobody tell me nothing crazy, you know?
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So that transitional part was
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that was the.
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I don't want say. That's a challenge
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Yeah.
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And you know,
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I said it on IG the other day.
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I said, you know,
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sometimes as entrepreneurs,
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we make it look too easy.
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I wish I could have like taking out
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through that piece too
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You know what I mean
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ten times harder than it looks on.
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Yeah. People out here, most people are.
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Perfect
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about the entrepreneurial lifestyle
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and lied about it.
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Yeah, it is not. It is not.
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And I don't say that
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to turn people away from it.
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Because I feel like it's
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a very freeing,
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freeing thing,
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but you got to know how to control it
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and understand those freedoms
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and know that yes, you may have freedoms,
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but you still need
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some sort of structure.
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You still got to wake up every day,
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you still got to answer the phone calls
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and you still got to do things
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to actually make
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that entrepreneur lifestyle work
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You have to be the hunter.
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I mean,
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I think that's the difference
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between being
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because you still often
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have to work when you have a job,
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you have a certain time,
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but like nobody
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is not no one else is going to figure out how
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Nobody, nobody's.
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Giving you that opportunity yet.
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You know what I mean?
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And you got to go out there and call.
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Call, call.
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Call pick up them phones.
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And don't make it to where you have
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a staff of people
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who depend on you and people
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you have to take care of,
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then the stress is even more
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because now you're the last person to eat
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an entrepreneur.
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Yep, I think
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I think people forget that
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piece like
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I don't get my checks
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until everybody on my team eats you know,
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until everybody on my team eats because I know
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and I understand that
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that's my work force.
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That's
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the people who who keep me in place
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and keep me sane
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and make sure the operation
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moves the way it needs to.
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So you always want to make sure your team
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eat first
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and then,
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you know, you know, in the back end,
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sometimes that that plate ain't that big.
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Yep, sometimes it's huge.
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Exactly. You got it.
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You got to roll with the punches
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as they come.
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Yeah.
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What's a story or moment
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that you can disclose?
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Because I know you were also intelligence
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in the military that
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really stuck out with you.
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Like that
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was a maybe a transformational moment
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that applied that you've applied
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that through life
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or you apply that through your business
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if you can think of one.
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Oh, yeah, no.
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You know,
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there's a time that stands out to me.
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I went to a commander's call one time and
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my commander brought a little rubber
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ducky out.
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He brought a little rubber ducky out.
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He put it on the podium
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and his speech was, he said, You know,
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some people may look at this
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and try to call it
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a woodpecker or a bird or a, you know,
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I call it a duck.
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It's a rubber ducky, you know?
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So his mantra was,
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you call it what it is.
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You call a duck a duck,
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you call a spade a spade.
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And I feel like that's helped me out
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throughout my business and personal life
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because you cut a lot of the minutia out.
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You know,
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a lot of times
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things can be handled when you go direct
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and you have those direct conversations.
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And in business,
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sometimes those are those conversations
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that are the hardest
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that people don't like to have.
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But you call a duck a duck,
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you know, as the boss, sometimes
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even if his family
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like I've had family work for me,
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my sisters probably hate me right now.
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They love me but
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at the beginning,
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like one of my, my very close
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sister was working with me.
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She was like, my, you know.
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My right hand. Yeah you know I don't do family in business too much
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My mother works there, My mother works only
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because she's like my accountant,
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but like, she's helped me but like. Right?
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My but
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but that's only because
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she's my accountant for support, really.
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She she's just doing it to help.
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But like beyond that.
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I don't know if you it's tough tough
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and and you got to do that as the boss,
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you got to call a duck a duck
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if it doesn't work.
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You can't.
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You can't keep.
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So you had to fire family.
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Oh, for sure. For sure.
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Yes, for sure.
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I've had to fire family
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Like I love you,
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but you got to she going to see this
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interview and be like,
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Oh my God,
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I love you, but we can't love you.
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But like you.
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That's how businesses
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end up failing, though, right?
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If you can't like
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you can support your family like
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this is the reason why I could
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support you.
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But like,
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what you can't do is have someone.
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Nobody's above the business
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No yeah, nobody's above the business.
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And that's a mantra
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that we have on our walls.
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Like, nobody's not even me.
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You know,
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even the person who created it, like,
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if I'm in the way somebody's going to need
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to tell me
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I need to step out the way
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to make sure
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that the process moves
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to that next level .
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And that's what I built my team on.
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That's what I built
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the company on is
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we call a duck a duck
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that nobody's bigger than the business,
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you know,
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because this is how we plan on feeding generations
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and generations and generations
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and creating that generational wealth.
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So we want to make sure
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that we keep that intact.
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So you I'm not the CEO, you know, Miss Ayana Young
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She's our CEO,
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so she does a lot of the regulating
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She's the one that puts on that top hat.
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What it means to you know
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But we've built this team out to be this,
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you know, for me,
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like I said,
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I started off
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as just in my garage, literally
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being the one
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packing the product, put in the product,
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talking to the customer,
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doing everything.
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And then we've kind of expanded it
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to now.
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We have it to where it's like women.
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It's like a woman led
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business, which I'm all for.
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You know, I have five sisters
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and then Miss Ayana Young
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Wow.
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That's why you.. I have two older sisters.
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So yeah, yeah.
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And then I know,
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you know, women, just they they
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they got that.
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They know that they know me.
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I play the operation role
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like I'm more hands on.
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I can get things done, but.
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You and I are opposite I'm a CEO.
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Like keeping things in order.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you like the CEO feeling
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Yeah, yeah, that's more my thing.
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And yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I like that operation side.
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I like to split it off.
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Like that makes sense
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Kind of make everything,
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you know, work
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how I need to work in,
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and then I'll make sure
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that we can bring the money to the door.
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Well, that's important.
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Usually a CEO does that
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Like that's an interesting paradigm.
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So what's a
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what's some advice
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you would give your younger self
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knowing that things you know
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now it can be before
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the business, before your
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your service in the Air Force?
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And what advice would you ignore?
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That's a good one
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So what advice would I give myself?
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Honestly, you know, the younger me,
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I would have probably told myself
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to save more.
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You know,
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my dad passed away when I was young,
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so I had a lot of money at a young age
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just from
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my Pops passing away.
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You know, so
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it should have put me
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in a better situation, but it didn't.
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You know, I was young and dumb
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and I blew it.
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So essentially, I went to the military
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because I was tired of paying
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for school out of pocket
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and running out of money
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and stuff like that.
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So I think for me,
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I would tell my younger self
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to just slow down a little bit
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and save a little bit more.
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It could have probably saved me
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a lot of little
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headaches throughout the way
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but I feel like those kind of made me who
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I am as well.
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So sometimes I wouldn't
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want to change that
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and what's some good advice.
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Oh I didn't say good advice
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advice you would ignore
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people give all types of advice.
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Right?
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So I didn't say it was good.
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Oh, OK.
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So the advice that I would, I would
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I would recommend
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everybody
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ignore is the fear in advice like,
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you gonna have 1,000,000 people
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that you tell your idea to one,
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and I only speak about my idea once.
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Like, that's another
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good thing I tell people to.
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The more you talk about something,
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the more you start fantasizing
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that you're actually doing it
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and you're not,
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you know,
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you speak about it once
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and you put a plan in place
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to actually do it.
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And then as you do it,
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you can kind of see like, you know, your
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your ins and outs.
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So I would stay away
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from the fear speech.
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You know, one time I told one of my
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ex friends about an idea
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that I wanted to do,
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they started placing
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kind of like their fears on me,
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which made me.
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Then, you know,
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look at the industry like, should I?
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Should I not?
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You know, I almost missed out on a bag
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because they weighed their fears on me,
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you know, so
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I would just watch out
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for the fear speech
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and then everybody has their opinion.
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Leave it at that.
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Let that be their opinion.
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And you feel like you're
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if you have mapped out this goal
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and one plus one equals two,
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then you need to go ahead and explore
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how to get one
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and plus one and to make it two.
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Yeah,
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I really want to talk about the point
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you made with the ex-friend.
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You had that put their fears on you.
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Would I talk to anybody about success?
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I say the most important ingredient.
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one of them is the people.
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You surround yourself with,
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the people you surround yourself with
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are really going
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to determine your future.
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Your future period. Oh, that's.
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Because, right?
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Because in scientific studies
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have shown the people that are around
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you literally
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Rewire your brain.
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So if you go on
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and try to say you're in an environment
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that you think you disagree with
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and everybody just
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has these crazy beliefs
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and you go in every single day
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with the resistance of
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I'm going to keep
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the way I feel I'm going to do this.
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Science says otherwise that
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no matter how hard you try.
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Eventually,
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your beliefs will start to conform
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with a group
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without you even realizing it.
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Because people, people affect us.
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We're tribal by nature.
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So if you're hanging around
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hanging around, losers, if you got.
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If you got eight loosers,
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You're going to be the ninth
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And I think I feel like.
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He also said that if you hang around ten broke negros
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You're going to be the 11th like.
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Because that's how it works!
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And then the thing
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is, that's how you elevate
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as well as
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you've got to elevate your circle.
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Because what I've learned
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is like my circle
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that I had in high school
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isn't the same circle I had in college
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isn't the same circle
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I had in the Air
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Force isn't
00:24:09:06 - 00:24:10:14
the same circle that I have now
00:24:10:14 - 00:24:12:03
is that as an adult
00:24:12:03 - 00:24:14:04
and I need to, as an adult,
00:24:14:05 - 00:24:15:24
figure out how to get from that.
00:24:15:24 - 00:24:18:00
I know now you have 4 million,
00:24:18:00 - 00:24:19:03
how do you get to 10 million?
00:24:19:03 - 00:24:20:14
How do you get to 20 million?
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And it's about all about the circles
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that you surround yourself with.
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Because those opportunities
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Come up within those circles sometimes.
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So and people get this twisted
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And people get it twisted like,
00:24:30:17 - 00:24:32:00
Oh, are you saying cut off family?
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I'll only say
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cut off family if tthey're toxic
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right, right?
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Because they're toxic
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if they're toxic, like the family.
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But like that, we ain't like that.
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It's too stressful,
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too stressful.
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Like life is too stressful
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even if you're not and entrepreneur.
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Like being around toxic people.
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Where's energy is.
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Real right? And we only have
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and it's finite. We don't.
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Not you. Not me.
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We don't have an
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infinite amount of energy.
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We're not God.
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So like people come to us
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and their emotional energy,
00:25:02:14 - 00:25:03:08
it drags on us.
00:25:03:08 - 00:25:03:23
They're negative,
00:25:03:23 - 00:25:05:14
their mental energy.
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And if the relationship isn't one
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that's building you
00:25:07:19 - 00:25:08:13
in some way, like to me,
00:25:08:13 - 00:25:10:12
it also doesn't have to be all about
00:25:10:12 - 00:25:11:19
Let's be very clear,
00:25:11:19 - 00:25:12:13
all my relationships
00:25:12:13 - 00:25:13:12
don't have to be like,
00:25:13:12 - 00:25:15:17
you're helping me in economic way.
00:25:15:17 - 00:25:16:23
There are other ways to help.
00:25:16:23 - 00:25:17:20
And support, right?
00:25:17:20 - 00:25:19:13
You can help emotionally support
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like all those things.
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But if it's not about uplifting
00:25:22:18 - 00:25:25:06
and moving in some positive direction,
00:25:25:06 - 00:25:26:10
if if it's not,
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if that's not
00:25:26:20 - 00:25:28:13
the dynamic of the relationship,
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why do I have the relationship right?
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No, no, no.
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And that's absolutely fact
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because you got to evaluate that,
00:25:34:13 - 00:25:36:21
especially for me, like, I'm an empath,
00:25:36:22 - 00:25:38:10
so I like to help people.
00:25:38:10 - 00:25:39:08
I like to like,
00:25:39:08 - 00:25:40:07
put people in position
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and try to put people in place to win.
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And a lot of times
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those energies aren't always the best.
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And me as an empath,
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I need people who can actually feed
00:25:50:15 - 00:25:52:02
that piece of me mentally,
00:25:52:02 - 00:25:54:03
you know, like mentally stimulate me
00:25:54:23 - 00:25:55:16
that that's
00:25:55:16 - 00:25:57:07
what kind of gets you to that next level
00:25:57:07 - 00:25:58:19
because our minds are always
00:25:58:19 - 00:25:59:22
thinking, always working,
00:25:59:22 - 00:26:00:15
always trying to figure out
00:26:00:15 - 00:26:02:22
what that next move is to make sure that,
00:26:02:22 - 00:26:04:05
you know, we get to that next level.
00:26:04:05 - 00:26:05:05
So you always want somebody
00:26:05:05 - 00:26:06:06
feeding that machine
00:26:06:06 - 00:26:08:08
with positivity, that energy,
00:26:08:08 - 00:26:09:15
because you do give out a lot
00:26:09:15 - 00:26:10:17
and you're absolutely right.
00:26:10:17 - 00:26:11:16
It's not a situation
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where you have infinite energy.
00:26:13:17 - 00:26:14:08
No.
00:26:14:08 - 00:26:15:02
So Kern,
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what does
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what does the next level look like
00:26:17:19 - 00:26:18:23
for higher collection? Like what?
00:26:18:23 - 00:26:21:08
What does the journey look like?
00:26:21:08 - 00:26:21:18
There's no.
00:26:21:18 - 00:26:23:18
Ultimate success path in terms of like.
00:26:23:19 - 00:26:24:07
Right here.
00:26:24:07 - 00:26:25:01
In this success,
00:26:25:01 - 00:26:27:01
but five or ten years from now,
00:26:27:01 - 00:26:28:16
what would what would you.
00:26:28:16 - 00:26:29:19
Feel.
00:26:29:19 - 00:26:31:11
Is success for you
00:26:31:11 - 00:26:33:19
in that moment in terms of your journey?
00:26:33:19 - 00:26:35:22
So for me, I feel like within five
00:26:36:15 - 00:26:37:12
to ten years,
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I would love to have like a space.
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I would love to have a school,
00:26:42:06 - 00:26:42:24
a transitional
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school space that teaches shows people
00:26:45:24 - 00:26:47:18
how to do things that you know,
00:26:47:18 - 00:26:49:05
we weren't traditionally taught
00:26:49:05 - 00:26:50:09
like for me.
00:26:50:09 - 00:26:51:20
I also own cattle.
00:26:51:20 - 00:26:53:24
I have a whole farming side to me
00:26:54:13 - 00:26:56:16
that I farming of no.
00:26:56:16 - 00:26:57:15
Yeah, I wouldn't have.
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Known unless you got a farm
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in California, you got.
00:27:00:06 - 00:27:01:11
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 20
00:27:01:11 - 00:27:03:09
acres, 20 acres with cattle as well.
00:27:03:09 - 00:27:05:06
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:05:06 - 00:27:06:19
OK. Yes.
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So, you know, for me,
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I wouldn't
00:27:08:07 - 00:27:10:04
even know anything about that until,
00:27:10:04 - 00:27:11:04
you know, shout out to Mr.
00:27:11:04 - 00:27:13:16
Cleveland, my black rancher mentor.
00:27:14:16 - 00:27:16:20
He put me on in 2016.
00:27:16:20 - 00:27:17:16
He was like, You know what?
00:27:17:16 - 00:27:18:21
I need you to go get a brand,
00:27:18:21 - 00:27:19:24
go get your cattle brand.
00:27:19:24 - 00:27:20:13
So you know,
00:27:20:13 - 00:27:21:13
we have our own brand
00:27:21:13 - 00:27:23:10
that goes on our cattle.
00:27:23:10 - 00:27:24:22
He said for tax purposes,
00:27:24:22 - 00:27:26:13
I need you to get into
00:27:26:13 - 00:27:28:05
into the agriculture industry
00:27:28:05 - 00:27:29:14
because what the government will do
00:27:29:14 - 00:27:31:22
is pay you to feed people.
00:27:32:18 - 00:27:34:08
And he has not
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he has not shown me anything wrong since.
00:27:36:21 - 00:27:37:17
So what I want to do is
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I want to create an atmosphere
00:27:39:08 - 00:27:41:01
that can give this knowledge
00:27:41:01 - 00:27:41:19
to other people
00:27:41:19 - 00:27:43:11
because if you're not in the room,
00:27:43:11 - 00:27:45:02
you don't understand that the government
00:27:45:02 - 00:27:46:20
will give you a loan of up
00:27:46:20 - 00:27:48:24
to 300,000 for equipment.
00:27:48:24 - 00:27:51:02
You pay over 40 to 60 years.
00:27:51:14 - 00:27:53:06
Oh, they'll give you.
00:27:53:06 - 00:27:54:14
They'll give you
00:27:54:14 - 00:27:57:21
up to $2 million to purchase farmland
00:27:58:05 - 00:27:59:21
as long as you put it into production
00:27:59:21 - 00:28:01:20
within a certain amount of time.
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Agriculture is kind of
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like the backbone to the United States,
00:28:05:00 - 00:28:06:17
so a lot of times
00:28:06:17 - 00:28:07:11
I want to teach
00:28:07:11 - 00:28:09:12
people just the knowledge that I've known
00:28:09:12 - 00:28:10:06
and then put people
00:28:10:06 - 00:28:11:13
within the space
00:28:11:13 - 00:28:13:19
that can teach people more knowledge,
00:28:13:19 - 00:28:14:02
you know,
00:28:14:02 - 00:28:15:15
because that's really what it's about.
00:28:15:15 - 00:28:17:04
You don't know what you do not know.
00:28:17:04 - 00:28:19:01
So I'm hoping within the next five
00:28:19:01 - 00:28:19:17
or ten years,
00:28:19:17 - 00:28:21:00
I have a space where
00:28:21:00 - 00:28:23:03
we can actually teach people
00:28:23:03 - 00:28:24:07
what it is they need to know,
00:28:24:07 - 00:28:25:12
you know, probably help out
00:28:25:12 - 00:28:27:07
some of our homeless veterans,
00:28:27:07 - 00:28:28:16
bring them within a space,
00:28:28:16 - 00:28:30:08
get them into a transitional program
00:28:30:08 - 00:28:31:06
that can kind of ease
00:28:31:06 - 00:28:33:07
some of our infrastructure issues.
00:28:33:07 - 00:28:34:16
I don't know if you've seen lately
00:28:34:16 - 00:28:35:13
at the ports,
00:28:35:13 - 00:28:37:20
you know, people are backed up almost
00:28:37:20 - 00:28:39:09
three, four or five days
00:28:39:09 - 00:28:40:13
waiting for trucks
00:28:40:13 - 00:28:42:05
to get loaded up and stuff like that.
00:28:42:05 - 00:28:42:24
You know,
00:28:43:05 - 00:28:44:20
I feel like the veteran population
00:28:44:20 - 00:28:47:11
was used to fight war overseas.
00:28:47:11 - 00:28:49:04
Now we have a huge war
00:28:49:04 - 00:28:50:04
kind of going on here
00:28:50:04 - 00:28:50:23
in the United States,
00:28:50:23 - 00:28:53:24
where you have ships actually circling
00:28:53:24 - 00:28:55:08
and in the sea,
00:28:55:08 - 00:28:56:24
like in the Pacific Ocean,
00:28:56:24 - 00:28:58:15
just because they don't have any place
00:28:58:15 - 00:29:01:05
to come and offload on the West Coast.
00:29:01:05 - 00:29:01:14
So.
00:29:03:02 - 00:29:03:24
Things like that.
00:29:03:24 - 00:29:04:11
Wow.
00:29:04:11 - 00:29:05:10
Yeah, and it's all about
00:29:05:10 - 00:29:06:16
and it's all about workforce,
00:29:06:16 - 00:29:07:02
you know,
00:29:07:02 - 00:29:08:24
the workforce is become an issue,
00:29:08:24 - 00:29:10:13
so we want to champion that.
00:29:10:13 - 00:29:11:03
We want to
00:29:11:06 - 00:29:12:06
we want to get ahead of it
00:29:12:06 - 00:29:14:04
because we see it being an issue.
00:29:14:04 - 00:29:15:17
You see, everybody's talking about going
00:29:15:17 - 00:29:17:05
autonomous now like, you know,
00:29:17:05 - 00:29:19:11
starting to put robots in place
00:29:19:11 - 00:29:21:15
and self-driving vehicles and,
00:29:21:15 - 00:29:21:22
you know,
00:29:21:22 - 00:29:23:07
trying to get rid of the workforce.
00:29:23:07 - 00:29:25:08
But we know what America was built on.
00:29:25:08 - 00:29:26:15
You know what I mean?
00:29:26:15 - 00:29:29:02
So no, I agree with you and I'm
00:29:30:01 - 00:29:30:18
part of why I'm in.
00:29:30:18 - 00:29:31:22
Web3 is the power people
00:29:31:22 - 00:29:33:06
we have similar.
00:29:33:06 - 00:29:35:12
Our hows are different, but our whys
00:29:36:00 - 00:29:36:20
pretty much the same.
00:29:36:20 - 00:29:38:21
It's about empowering people.
00:29:38:24 - 00:29:41:06
And I just got through
00:29:41:06 - 00:29:42:01
with a really good book.
00:29:42:01 - 00:29:45:00
And if you got it's called Homo Deus
00:29:45:00 - 00:29:46:02
I don't like everything
00:29:46:02 - 00:29:47:24
he says at the beginning
00:29:47:24 - 00:29:48:23
about everything,
00:29:48:23 - 00:29:49:16
but he's very good
00:29:49:16 - 00:29:50:21
in terms of talking about like,
00:29:50:21 - 00:29:51:09
this is a
00:29:51:09 - 00:29:51:15
it's called
00:29:51:15 - 00:29:53:00
a brief history of the future.
00:29:53:00 - 00:29:54:18
About where we could go
00:29:54:18 - 00:29:57:14
and that's about it is about
00:29:58:16 - 00:29:59:17
A.I.
00:29:59:17 - 00:30:00:17
and about the fact that,
00:30:00:17 - 00:30:03:09
you know, there's the new religion around
00:30:03:21 - 00:30:04:23
data science, that
00:30:04:23 - 00:30:06:03
that religion is everything
00:30:06:03 - 00:30:06:24
and that not a religion.
00:30:06:24 - 00:30:08:04
That data is everything.
00:30:08:04 - 00:30:09:09
And that is. Everything.
00:30:09:09 - 00:30:09:22
Right? Right.
00:30:09:22 - 00:30:10:15
It is in a way,
00:30:10:15 - 00:30:11:23
but they do it as such
00:30:11:23 - 00:30:14:03
and such as is a religion right?
00:30:14:03 - 00:30:16:17
That is data the most important
00:30:16:17 - 00:30:18:18
and that is data more important.
00:30:18:18 - 00:30:20:00
Is that the most important thing
00:30:20:00 - 00:30:21:11
for us for as humans?
00:30:21:11 - 00:30:23:19
The second question is, is
00:30:23:19 - 00:30:27:02
it more important to have intelligence
00:30:27:02 - 00:30:29:15
or to be conscious?
00:30:29:15 - 00:30:30:06
And that's important
00:30:30:06 - 00:30:30:22
because of what
00:30:30:22 - 00:30:31:23
the scientific community
00:30:31:23 - 00:30:35:06
now is decoupling those two to say.
00:30:35:06 - 00:30:37:08
Oh they are. They making it two seperate,
00:30:37:23 - 00:30:38:21
We just need intelligence
00:30:38:21 - 00:30:40:16
and we can use machines for that.
00:30:40:16 - 00:30:42:23
And the third is what happens when
00:30:44:11 - 00:30:45:22
these systems,
00:30:45:22 - 00:30:46:18
these
00:30:46:18 - 00:30:48:01
artificial intelligence systems
00:30:48:01 - 00:30:49:04
and organizations know
00:30:49:04 - 00:30:51:08
more about ourselves than we do.
00:30:51:22 - 00:30:52:20
And what happens to humanity
00:30:52:20 - 00:30:53:13
at that point, right,
00:30:53:13 - 00:30:55:11
and how much control to give them anyway?
00:30:55:11 - 00:30:57:02
I get into that that to say that,
00:30:57:02 - 00:30:57:08
you know,
00:30:57:08 - 00:30:58:12
we have to be involved
00:30:58:12 - 00:30:59:14
and aware of what's going on
00:30:59:14 - 00:31:02:03
because innovation is not slowing down.
00:31:02:03 - 00:31:04:10
I do think a lot of jobs will be.
00:31:04:10 - 00:31:05:14
I'm not championing this,
00:31:05:14 - 00:31:06:16
but I'm just human.
00:31:06:16 - 00:31:07:24
Nature will be automated.
00:31:07:24 - 00:31:09:08
Perhaps a bunch of new industries
00:31:09:08 - 00:31:11:06
will be created on top of that,
00:31:11:06 - 00:31:11:24
but maybe not.
00:31:11:24 - 00:31:14:05
We've also never seen.
00:31:14:05 - 00:31:16:08
Such rapid change so fast,
00:31:16:15 - 00:31:18:09
and we've never seen traditionally
00:31:18:09 - 00:31:20:05
the jobs that have been replaced
00:31:20:05 - 00:31:21:18
have been manual labor
00:31:21:18 - 00:31:23:08
to have us replace it,
00:31:23:08 - 00:31:24:23
to use our brains more.
00:31:24:23 - 00:31:26:20
But what happens when
00:31:26:20 - 00:31:27:17
artificial intelligence
00:31:27:17 - 00:31:29:18
can they think for us?
00:31:29:18 - 00:31:30:12
Then what happens?
00:31:30:12 - 00:31:31:00
Right?
00:31:31:05 - 00:31:32:18
Like, it's like, No, and that's fact,
00:31:32:18 - 00:31:33:19
as you know.
00:31:33:19 - 00:31:34:19
Because you got to even think
00:31:34:19 - 00:31:36:07
like in the metaverse to like,
00:31:36:07 - 00:31:36:14
you know,
00:31:36:14 - 00:31:38:02
I've just started getting more
00:31:38:02 - 00:31:40:01
and more into the metaverse and I'm way.
00:31:40:01 - 00:31:41:11
This is you could literally.
00:31:41:11 - 00:31:43:04
I had a meeting in a metaverse the other day
00:31:43:04 - 00:31:45:13
when they went into a meeting room.
00:31:45:13 - 00:31:46:07
In Oculous
00:31:46:07 - 00:31:47:11
Oculus. Yes.
00:31:47:11 - 00:31:48:02
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:48:02 - 00:31:49:06
So with Oculus
00:31:49:06 - 00:31:50:08
You know, with the Oculus,
00:31:50:08 - 00:31:52:08
you can pretty much set up meeting rooms.
00:31:52:08 - 00:31:53:06
Folks can come in
00:31:53:06 - 00:31:54:13
and you can actually have a meeting
00:31:54:13 - 00:31:55:00
with people
00:31:55:00 - 00:31:56:19
from whether it's other states,
00:31:56:19 - 00:31:58:01
other countries,
00:31:58:01 - 00:31:59:08
and you can actually like
00:31:59:08 - 00:32:01:09
walk up to a board, draw on the board.
00:32:01:09 - 00:32:02:08
If you wanted to,
00:32:02:08 - 00:32:03:17
I could go sit at the computer
00:32:03:17 - 00:32:05:07
and check my email.
00:32:05:07 - 00:32:07:16
It's pretty interesting, like.
00:32:07:16 - 00:32:10:20
Oh yeah, definitely.
00:32:10:21 - 00:32:12:01
I have an Oculus here, but I've.
00:32:12:01 - 00:32:13:18
Never used it, so I might have to.
00:32:13:18 - 00:32:15:04
Oh, you have to.
00:32:15:04 - 00:32:16:16
You got to
00:32:16:16 - 00:32:18:00
Now I'm in the metaverse stuff,
00:32:18:00 - 00:32:19:08
but I haven't even used an Oculus
00:32:19:08 - 00:32:20:11
Not like I'm actually so.
00:32:20:11 - 00:32:21:19
You have to.
00:32:21:19 - 00:32:22:21
All right, that's good to know.
00:32:22:21 - 00:32:24:05
Like, you had a meeting on the metaverse.
00:32:24:05 - 00:32:24:23
All right we're going to.
00:32:24:23 - 00:32:25:15
Yeah, yeah,
00:32:25:15 - 00:32:27:15
you can create pretty much virtual
00:32:27:15 - 00:32:28:15
reality meeting rooms.
00:32:28:15 - 00:32:29:15
Set it up how you want.
00:32:29:15 - 00:32:30:18
We could be at the spa,
00:32:30:18 - 00:32:32:17
we could be at the Lamborghini dealership
00:32:32:17 - 00:32:33:10
if we wanted to.
00:32:33:10 - 00:32:35:00
We could change the background
00:32:35:00 - 00:32:36:18
and then like for me,
00:32:36:18 - 00:32:38:14
I actually have meetings at my
00:32:38:14 - 00:32:40:04
office in the Metaverse, so
00:32:41:08 - 00:32:42:08
essentially I could invite
00:32:42:08 - 00:32:43:21
people into the meeting.
00:32:43:21 - 00:32:44:23
I'm sitting in front of my computer
00:32:44:23 - 00:32:46:23
Do they have to have Oculus now?
00:32:46:23 - 00:32:47:14
Oh yes, sir.
00:32:47:14 - 00:32:50:06
Yeah you have to have Oculus.
00:32:50:09 - 00:32:53:16
And then I can like check my email right
00:32:53:20 - 00:32:55:23
in the metaverse. It's pretty crazy.
00:32:55:23 - 00:32:56:21
That is pretty crazy.
00:32:56:21 - 00:32:59:06
So, all right, so I want to get to some
00:32:59:06 - 00:33:00:10
some lightning round questions
00:33:00:10 - 00:33:03:06
as we get ready to wrap up.
00:33:03:06 - 00:33:04:01
All right.
00:33:04:01 - 00:33:06:07
So what's it important conviction
00:33:06:07 - 00:33:07:23
You have that very few people agree
00:33:07:23 - 00:33:08:24
with you on?
00:33:10:03 - 00:33:11:19
00:33:12:08 - 00:33:14:06
Important conviction that I had that
00:33:14:06 - 00:33:18:09
very few people agree with me on.
00:33:18:13 - 00:33:19:22
That is a tough one!
00:33:19:22 - 00:33:21:23
Oh, oh, OK.
00:33:21:23 - 00:33:22:21
Of a conviction
00:33:22:21 - 00:33:25:18
that I have that very few people agree.
00:33:26:00 - 00:33:27:11
I mean, I'm a Patriots fan!
00:33:27:11 - 00:33:28:12
I don't know. People don't agree with that!
00:33:32:20 - 00:33:33:02
00:33:33:02 - 00:33:34:23
That is a good question.
00:33:34:23 - 00:33:35:10
I don't know.
00:33:35:10 - 00:33:36:24
I need an example of that.
00:33:36:24 - 00:33:37:14
Like what?
00:33:37:14 - 00:33:40:01
What's an example a conviction.
00:33:40:01 - 00:33:40:20
I can give you one
00:33:40:20 - 00:33:42:23
I got a good example.
00:33:42:23 - 00:33:46:15
I think that most people believe that.
00:33:48:08 - 00:33:50:24
They are inherently
00:33:51:05 - 00:33:52:16
good, but
00:33:52:16 - 00:33:53:03
they're a lot
00:33:53:03 - 00:33:54:04
worse than they think they are
00:33:54:04 - 00:33:56:00
and could be in the right situation.
00:33:56:00 - 00:33:57:19
So when you look at a situation
00:33:57:19 - 00:33:59:04
like Nazi Germany
00:33:59:04 - 00:34:00:16
and people look at like,
00:34:00:16 - 00:34:00:20
well,
00:34:00:20 - 00:34:02:16
how could all those people
00:34:02:16 - 00:34:04:21
go along with such a horrible practice?
00:34:05:06 - 00:34:06:05
I say very easily
00:34:06:05 - 00:34:07:08
because that's what humans do.
00:34:07:08 - 00:34:08:09
And when you're right,
00:34:08:09 - 00:34:10:03
when you're in a situation,
00:34:10:03 - 00:34:10:24
you'd be surprised
00:34:10:24 - 00:34:12:08
most of most people wouldn't
00:34:12:08 - 00:34:13:01
do the noble thing
00:34:13:01 - 00:34:14:06
that they think they would
00:34:14:06 - 00:34:16:02
if it meant their survival.
00:34:16:02 - 00:34:17:00
If it meant their survival.
00:34:17:00 - 00:34:18:12
If it meant their survival. Right.
00:34:18:12 - 00:34:19:01
So like
00:34:19:01 - 00:34:19:19
and so like
00:34:19:19 - 00:34:20:00
I would
00:34:20:00 - 00:34:20:18
so like and people
00:34:20:18 - 00:34:21:03
look at
00:34:21:03 - 00:34:23:13
like slavery was cool for about, what,
00:34:23:21 - 00:34:25:07
three 400 years, right?
00:34:25:07 - 00:34:27:15
I mean, like iand the practice was brutal
00:34:27:15 - 00:34:29:03
And people accepted the truth.
00:34:29:03 - 00:34:30:12
But accepted it.
00:34:30:12 - 00:34:31:05
Because people.
00:34:31:05 - 00:34:33:04
Will tell themselves lies
00:34:33:04 - 00:34:36:03
about how good they are and rarely see.
00:34:36:12 - 00:34:37:21
They'll automatically
00:34:37:21 - 00:34:39:00
see how bad others are,
00:34:39:00 - 00:34:41:09
but they're rarely see how bad they are
00:34:41:18 - 00:34:43:03
and they're never as good,
00:34:43:03 - 00:34:44:00
including myself
00:34:44:00 - 00:34:45:18
as we believe that we are.
00:34:45:18 - 00:34:46:05
I believe
00:34:46:05 - 00:34:48:10
and so on that on that same conviction
00:34:48:10 - 00:34:52:02
for me, I always say I never asked people
00:34:53:07 - 00:34:54:11
like, tell me three, three
00:34:54:11 - 00:34:55:21
good things about yourself.
00:34:55:21 - 00:34:57:14
Like, I always want to know people's bad
00:34:57:14 - 00:34:58:06
all the time.
00:34:58:06 - 00:34:59:03
I never asked
00:34:59:03 - 00:35:00:16
anybody anything good about themselves,
00:35:00:16 - 00:35:01:18
so that could be something
00:35:01:18 - 00:35:03:00
that most people don't agree with me on
00:35:03:00 - 00:35:04:13
because I don't want to know
00:35:04:13 - 00:35:05:24
what you feel like is good about you.
00:35:05:24 - 00:35:07:09
So let me know what's bad,
00:35:07:09 - 00:35:09:10
you know, because anybody can say, like,
00:35:09:13 - 00:35:10:22
what's great about themselves?
00:35:10:22 - 00:35:12:01
I can do that all day long,
00:35:12:01 - 00:35:14:00
but I do do that myself.
00:35:14:00 - 00:35:14:18
I never
00:35:14:18 - 00:35:15:14
I never really want to know
00:35:15:14 - 00:35:16:15
the good things about you.
00:35:16:15 - 00:35:18:00
Like, let me know the bad things
00:35:18:00 - 00:35:18:19
like like,
00:35:18:19 - 00:35:19:01
you get
00:35:19:01 - 00:35:20:04
bad time management
00:35:20:04 - 00:35:21:19
or you like to gamble
00:35:21:19 - 00:35:22:22
and like to waste money.
00:35:22:22 - 00:35:23:12
You know what I mean?
00:35:23:12 - 00:35:24:21
Because those are the type of things
00:35:24:21 - 00:35:26:03
that you want to know.
00:35:26:03 - 00:35:28:02
Just so I know how I got to deal with you
00:35:29:02 - 00:35:29:14
and I won't
00:35:29:14 - 00:35:30:20
put you in certain situations
00:35:30:20 - 00:35:31:19
that are triggering things
00:35:31:19 - 00:35:32:24
that you know you're right. Right?
00:35:32:24 - 00:35:34:03
That's a hard question to answer.
00:35:34:03 - 00:35:34:23
That could be.
00:35:34:23 - 00:35:35:23
Yeah, that's all right.
00:35:35:23 - 00:35:38:20
If you ask that question, interview
00:35:38:20 - 00:35:39:11
there's right ways,
00:35:39:11 - 00:35:41:00
and wrong ways to answer that.
00:35:41:00 - 00:35:42:19
But I think what you're looking for
00:35:42:19 - 00:35:43:19
is self-awareness, right?
00:35:43:19 - 00:35:45:01
Like self-awareness
00:35:45:01 - 00:35:48:08
to see if someone is self-aware of areas
00:35:48:08 - 00:35:49:06
about where they shouldn't,
00:35:49:06 - 00:35:50:07
where they should play, and shouldn't play
00:35:50:07 - 00:35:51:21
and I can answer that question easily.
00:35:51:21 - 00:35:53:12
Well, Rob shouldn't do is operations.
00:35:53:12 - 00:35:54:22
That's not me, right?
00:35:54:22 - 00:35:57:08
It's like, I'm not the operations person.
00:35:57:15 - 00:35:59:20
I'm the vision person.
00:35:59:20 - 00:36:00:22
Can I do operations?
00:36:00:22 - 00:36:02:02
Yeah, but that's not where.
00:36:02:02 - 00:36:03:04
That's not where you want me.
00:36:03:04 - 00:36:04:10
Like, you don't want me in operations
00:36:04:10 - 00:36:06:10
Yeah, you. Don't want me in CFO.
00:36:06:10 - 00:36:07:13
What you do want me is
00:36:07:13 - 00:36:08:22
you do want me to bring in the money.
00:36:08:22 - 00:36:10:00
You want me to lead the vision.
00:36:10:00 - 00:36:12:04
You want me to set up the basic structure
00:36:12:04 - 00:36:13:03
for how things are going to work,
00:36:13:03 - 00:36:14:16
to create an environment
00:36:14:16 - 00:36:16:07
that will create innovation.
00:36:16:07 - 00:36:18:11
But you do not want me to be the CLO.
00:36:18:11 - 00:36:19:12
Like that's never
00:36:19:12 - 00:36:20:08
All right.
00:36:20:08 - 00:36:22:01
Somebaody say the CLO I'll be like, Nope.
00:36:22:01 - 00:36:23:05
I'm not your person.
00:36:23:05 - 00:36:25:05
CFO. Nope. I'm not your person.
00:36:25:05 - 00:36:26:22
If it's a marketing job, I can do that.
00:36:26:22 - 00:36:29:06
If it's a leadership job
00:36:29:06 - 00:36:30:14
rallying people rallying
00:36:30:14 - 00:36:31:21
the vision bring an organization.
00:36:31:21 - 00:36:33:04
I can do that.
00:36:33:05 - 00:36:33:22
And again, I can.
00:36:33:22 - 00:36:34:23
Not that I don't understand
00:36:34:23 - 00:36:36:03
and appreciate operations.
00:36:36:03 - 00:36:37:15
I really, really do
00:36:38:18 - 00:36:40:06
because I'm working with
00:36:40:06 - 00:36:40:22
a startup company,
00:36:40:22 - 00:36:43:00
I've had to really dive into it.
00:36:43:00 - 00:36:43:16
But that's not where
00:36:43:16 - 00:36:44:24
my natural skillset lies.
00:36:44:24 - 00:36:46:14
So I mean, I just tell people
00:36:46:14 - 00:36:47:21
that question requires you
00:36:47:21 - 00:36:50:01
to understand, to be self-aware
00:36:50:01 - 00:36:51:06
and know how to
00:36:51:06 - 00:36:53:06
have gone through that introspection.
00:36:53:06 - 00:36:54:05
Most people don't, right?
00:36:54:05 - 00:36:54:10
I think.
00:36:54:10 - 00:36:56:01
That's another thing I've noticed about
00:36:56:01 - 00:36:56:09
that kind of.
00:36:56:09 - 00:36:57:05
Goes to my question earlier.
00:36:57:05 - 00:36:58:01
Like, you go through
00:36:58:01 - 00:36:59:14
introspection like, yes,
00:36:59:14 - 00:37:00:01
I'm like,
00:37:00:01 - 00:37:01:07
I hope I would have made
00:37:01:07 - 00:37:03:11
the right decision in those situations.
00:37:03:19 - 00:37:05:03
But no one can guarantee
00:37:05:03 - 00:37:07:00
that they would like to know
00:37:07:00 - 00:37:07:19
because they haven't.
00:37:07:19 - 00:37:08:21
Been in that situation.
00:37:08:21 - 00:37:10:21
Exactly, exactly.
00:37:10:21 - 00:37:12:15
I mean, people are adamant
00:37:12:15 - 00:37:13:04
about like
00:37:13:04 - 00:37:14:09
I would have stopped slavery,
00:37:14:09 - 00:37:15:04
and I tell people,
00:37:15:04 - 00:37:15:20
probably not,
00:37:15:20 - 00:37:17:02
especially people that say it like that
00:37:18:18 - 00:37:20:03
Or I would.
00:37:20:03 - 00:37:20:23
Go because you don't know
00:37:20:23 - 00:37:22:06
how much work that would have took.
00:37:22:06 - 00:37:24:07
And then are you willing to do that work?
00:37:24:07 - 00:37:25:01
You know
00:37:25:01 - 00:37:26:16
Do you do the work now for social justice
00:37:26:16 - 00:37:28:02
and risk anything like, right?
00:37:28:02 - 00:37:29:15
Like, if you're not doing it, taking a lot
00:37:29:15 - 00:37:30:20
Of risk on social justice right now.
00:37:30:20 - 00:37:32:12
I can guarantee you
00:37:32:12 - 00:37:33:18
you would not have taken a position
00:37:33:18 - 00:37:35:19
against slavery
00:37:35:19 - 00:37:37:06
Yeah, because it would have been
00:37:37:06 - 00:37:38:02
it would have meant that.
00:37:38:02 - 00:37:38:23
You would have had to risk
00:37:38:23 - 00:37:41:00
your privilege and wealth.
00:37:41:00 - 00:37:43:11
And people who don't normally do that
00:37:43:11 - 00:37:45:09
want to do that fact, which is.
00:37:45:09 - 00:37:46:09
Human nature again.
00:37:46:09 - 00:37:47:17
So anyway, all right.
00:37:47:17 - 00:37:49:18
So other questions.
00:37:49:18 - 00:37:52:06
So you have a committee of three,
00:37:52:06 - 00:37:53:08
these can be
00:37:54:07 - 00:37:56:00
living dead
00:37:56:00 - 00:37:59:02
to advise you on business life.
00:38:00:00 - 00:38:02:03
Who are these people and why?
00:38:02:05 - 00:38:04:11
Oh, I think I would go with Kobe
00:38:04:11 - 00:38:05:12
Bryant first.
00:38:05:12 - 00:38:06:12
OK, one, he's.
00:38:06:12 - 00:38:08:01
He's my favorite basketball player,
00:38:08:01 - 00:38:09:22
but to his work, his work
00:38:09:22 - 00:38:10:19
ethic was really
00:38:10:19 - 00:38:11:16
what what what
00:38:11:16 - 00:38:14:21
drove me to be so in tune with him.
00:38:15:13 - 00:38:17:21
So one would say. Yeah.
00:38:18:08 - 00:38:19:22
Insane work ethic.
00:38:19:22 - 00:38:21:01
So I would just want to be able
00:38:21:01 - 00:38:21:23
to pick his brain
00:38:21:23 - 00:38:22:13
and understand
00:38:22:13 - 00:38:25:02
that discipline aspect of it
00:38:25:02 - 00:38:27:09
and how he kept it up for so long.
00:38:27:09 - 00:38:28:06
So
00:38:28:21 - 00:38:30:14
how many people you said three? three.
00:38:30:14 - 00:38:32:17
That's that's one. Yeah. Yes, that's one.
00:38:32:18 - 00:38:34:03
Number two,
00:38:34:03 - 00:38:36:19
I think I would love to sit with Tupac,
00:38:37:06 - 00:38:38:03
you know?
00:38:38:08 - 00:38:39:00
Pac
00:38:39:06 - 00:38:40:20
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Pac.
00:38:40:20 - 00:38:42:24
Because I felt like he was a visionary.
00:38:43:09 - 00:38:46:11
Way past his time in California.
00:38:46:14 - 00:38:47:07
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:47:07 - 00:38:48:17
You're a Pac person. That makes sense.
00:38:48:17 - 00:38:49:20
And that's the thing.
00:38:49:20 - 00:38:50:20
I'm from New York.
00:38:50:20 - 00:38:51:24
Oh you're from New York.
00:38:51:24 - 00:38:52:12
Oh, right.
00:38:52:12 - 00:38:53:24
Oh, well, you're a traitor to your cause
00:38:54:23 - 00:38:55:19
I lived in Cali
00:38:55:19 - 00:38:57:01
But I was raised in New York.
00:38:57:01 - 00:38:59:12
Tupac over Biggie. Okay?
00:38:59:12 - 00:39:00:13
Yeah, and you know,
00:39:00:13 - 00:39:02:22
The thing with Pac is I felt like Pac
00:39:02:22 - 00:39:05:02
just was more of a visionary big.
00:39:05:13 - 00:39:07:11
Of course, being from Brooklyn.
00:39:07:11 - 00:39:07:23
I love
00:39:07:23 - 00:39:08:20
Biggie, but
00:39:08:20 - 00:39:10:09
Biggie showed me
00:39:10:09 - 00:39:11:24
everything that I wasn't.
00:39:11:24 - 00:39:13:14
When I was a kid, I wasn't on the corner.
00:39:13:14 - 00:39:15:12
I wasn't. I didn't do that stuff.
00:39:15:12 - 00:39:16:00
You know what I mean?
00:39:16:00 - 00:39:17:01
I think, for Pac
00:39:17:01 - 00:39:18:11
it was more of the vision
00:39:18:11 - 00:39:20:03
and what we could be as a people
00:39:20:03 - 00:39:21:01
and as a community
00:39:21:01 - 00:39:23:06
if we just got our shit together.
00:39:23:06 - 00:39:24:12
You know, like, like I.
00:39:24:12 - 00:39:27:01
Like I felt like that
00:39:27:01 - 00:39:28:05
Is just such a
00:39:28:05 - 00:39:29:03
we lost these brothers
00:39:29:03 - 00:39:31:06
before they got a chance to really
00:39:31:06 - 00:39:32:00
make an impact
00:39:32:00 - 00:39:33:11
because I think they would have made,
00:39:33:11 - 00:39:34:16
Obviously, Nipsey already did, and
00:39:35:17 - 00:39:36:01
Tupac's
00:39:36:01 - 00:39:37:19
legacy is still with us,
00:39:37:19 - 00:39:39:02
but I think he couldv'e done so much more.
00:39:39:02 - 00:39:39:22
had he lived longer.
00:39:39:22 - 00:39:41:09
Oh, for sure. Oh for sure.
00:39:41:09 - 00:39:43:13
And then third would be, Ye
00:39:43:14 - 00:39:44:17
Honestly, I would love.
00:39:44:17 - 00:39:46:19
to sit down with Kanye.
00:39:46:19 - 00:39:48:04
What would you ask Kanye?
00:39:48:04 - 00:39:48:21
What would you ask Kanye?
00:39:48:21 - 00:39:50:12
ok he's on the podcast?
00:39:50:12 - 00:39:52:06
Ye, we talking to you.
00:39:52:06 - 00:39:53:20
Kern got a question. Let's go.
00:39:53:20 - 00:39:56:00
Well, you know, I would love to hear.
00:39:56:00 - 00:39:58:09
I would love to hear why
00:39:58:09 - 00:39:59:12
around some of his moves,
00:39:59:12 - 00:39:59:21
you know,
00:39:59:21 - 00:40:01:22
even with support of Donald Trump.
00:40:02:04 - 00:40:04:06
You know, I'm not necessarily
00:40:04:06 - 00:40:06:00
I wasn't necessarily against that.
00:40:06:00 - 00:40:07:07
I just wanted to know
00:40:07:07 - 00:40:08:09
that outside the box
00:40:08:09 - 00:40:09:23
thinking for that because,
00:40:09:23 - 00:40:10:05
you know,
00:40:10:05 - 00:40:12:11
a lot of people will hate me for it.
00:40:12:11 - 00:40:14:14
But, you know, I identify
00:40:14:14 - 00:40:16:23
with Republicans, Democrats
00:40:16:23 - 00:40:17:23
and independents.
00:40:17:23 - 00:40:20:12
I'm not a wholehearted Democrat.
00:40:20:12 - 00:40:22:06
I'm not a wholehearted Republican.
00:40:22:06 - 00:40:24:02
I feel like there are certain aspects
00:40:24:02 - 00:40:25:23
of every party
00:40:25:23 - 00:40:28:13
that could benefit us as a culture
00:40:28:13 - 00:40:29:20
if we embraced it more.
00:40:29:20 - 00:40:32:16
But Kanye was really starting something,
00:40:33:02 - 00:40:34:17
and folks really shut it down
00:40:34:17 - 00:40:35:21
because nobody wants
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to think outside of that box.
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Nobody wants.
00:40:38:03 - 00:40:39:10
Everybody wants to be a Democrat.
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But what is a Democrat like?
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What exactly does that entail?
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Does it save your taxes?
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No.
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Does it help you get to that next level
00:40:46:06 - 00:40:47:24
as an entrepreneur? No.
00:40:47:24 - 00:40:49:10
You know, like, what does it do?
00:40:49:10 - 00:40:50:02
What does it do for you
00:40:50:02 - 00:40:51:15
does it help you with social justice?
00:40:51:15 - 00:40:52:15
Or is it just a title
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that we're running under
00:40:53:21 - 00:40:54:19
because everybody else run
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under it. Human nature
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like you said, you know? Yeah.
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So for me,
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I would just want to know like that
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outside the box
00:41:00:09 - 00:41:02:14
thinking that made him take that,
00:41:02:14 - 00:41:03:11
you know, leap of courage
00:41:03:11 - 00:41:04:14
and everything that he does.
00:41:04:14 - 00:41:04:22
You know,
00:41:04:22 - 00:41:05:20
he went and got on
00:41:05:20 - 00:41:08:23
the board of Gap like Gap used to
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set of close closed like $9 to $19.99.
00:41:12:01 - 00:41:12:17
I went in Gap
00:41:12:17 - 00:41:13:07
the other day there was
00:41:13:07 - 00:41:15:03
a sweater for $140.
00:41:17:12 - 00:41:18:14
I was like, what?
00:41:18:14 - 00:41:18:24
You know,
00:41:18:24 - 00:41:20:19
but those outside of the box
00:41:20:19 - 00:41:22:19
visionaries are definitely people
00:41:22:20 - 00:41:23:24
I would love to tap into
00:41:23:24 - 00:41:25:20
because I feel like that's
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where you gain.
00:41:27:09 - 00:41:28:19
The empowerment is when you start
00:41:28:19 - 00:41:30:23
thinking outside of that box
00:41:30:23 - 00:41:32:09
that people try to place you in.
00:41:32:09 - 00:41:33:18
Yeah, no, I agree. I agree with that.
00:41:33:18 - 00:41:35:18
I mean, I really think
00:41:35:18 - 00:41:37:11
black folks have to be very strategic
00:41:37:11 - 00:41:38:24
about how they approach everything right?
00:41:38:24 - 00:41:40:05
And it's about you have to
00:41:40:05 - 00:41:41:08
You have to be like.
00:41:41:08 - 00:41:42:13
Every other race is
00:41:42:13 - 00:41:44:17
every other race is strategic
00:41:44:17 - 00:41:46:04
about how they approach
00:41:46:04 - 00:41:47:08
everything, even something
00:41:47:08 - 00:41:48:22
as simple as picking
00:41:48:22 - 00:41:50:14
their judicial individuals
00:41:50:14 - 00:41:52:22
within their own neighborhood courts
00:41:53:14 - 00:41:56:03
like, you know, like best
00:41:56:03 - 00:41:57:07
believe somebody's golfing
00:41:57:07 - 00:41:59:10
with that judge on Sunday.
00:41:59:10 - 00:42:00:15
Like, you. Know, I mean.
00:42:00:15 - 00:42:02:24
I completely agree.
00:42:02:24 - 00:42:05:02
I mean, it's it's it's all a game.
00:42:05:02 - 00:42:06:19
I mean, I had a belief
00:42:06:19 - 00:42:07:03
that I think
00:42:07:03 - 00:42:08:14
I think Donald Trump was super crazy.
00:42:08:14 - 00:42:10:00
So but but I.
00:42:11:14 - 00:42:12:05
I think he's an.
00:42:12:05 - 00:42:14:04
outlier to all this.
00:42:14:04 - 00:42:15:09
He will be like, I just, yeah,
00:42:15:09 - 00:42:16:07
I think he. Was, you know.
00:42:16:07 - 00:42:17:22
I feel like he was a disruptor.
00:42:17:22 - 00:42:18:20
I feel like he went in there.
00:42:18:20 - 00:42:19:23
It was definitely a disruptor.
00:42:19:23 - 00:42:21:16
It's about how he does it.
00:42:21:16 - 00:42:23:13
I think he was disruptive for
00:42:23:13 - 00:42:24:22
chaos and attention.
00:42:24:22 - 00:42:26:08
But like, I disrupt
00:42:26:08 - 00:42:28:02
I disrupt for empowerment.
00:42:28:02 - 00:42:29:03
So disruptions fine.
00:42:29:03 - 00:42:31:05
But I also think to your point,
00:42:31:13 - 00:42:32:06
it really helped
00:42:32:06 - 00:42:33:19
expose some things in the system.
00:42:33:19 - 00:42:35:10
So what I you know, at the.
00:42:35:10 - 00:42:36:22
end of the day we got to we got.
00:42:36:22 - 00:42:37:19
Hold people accountable too.
00:42:37:19 - 00:42:38:14
So like
00:42:38:24 - 00:42:39:05
we got
00:42:39:05 - 00:42:40:03
hold Democrats accountable
00:42:40:03 - 00:42:42:04
which we vote overwhelmingly for.
00:42:43:01 - 00:42:44:15
And look, I've run as a Democrat before,
00:42:44:15 - 00:42:46:14
but I also, you know, I'm
00:42:46:14 - 00:42:47:05
out of the system.
00:42:47:05 - 00:42:49:00
So I'm going to give my honest assessment
00:42:49:00 - 00:42:49:08
to say
00:42:49:08 - 00:42:51:02
that we got to hold everybody accountable
00:42:51:02 - 00:42:52:12
and we have to be
00:42:52:12 - 00:42:54:16
involved in the process.
00:42:54:16 - 00:42:56:04
And we got to have
00:42:56:04 - 00:42:57:10
some support from Republicans because.
00:42:57:10 - 00:42:59:21
You can't do anything in America
00:42:59:21 - 00:43:02:02
without them. Without them, right?
00:43:02:02 - 00:43:02:23
Republicans do this
00:43:02:23 - 00:43:03:19
better than Democrats
00:43:03:19 - 00:43:05:20
like they hold the line.
00:43:06:02 - 00:43:09:10
And so even when Democrats
00:43:10:17 - 00:43:11:12
To the tee!
00:43:11:12 - 00:43:12:20
So what you got to do is
00:43:13:16 - 00:43:14:13
So what are you going to do?
00:43:14:13 - 00:43:16:03
They will do nothing.
00:43:16:03 - 00:43:17:01
And you know,
00:43:17:01 - 00:43:18:16
and so that makes them a force,
00:43:18:16 - 00:43:21:09
even when they're not the majority.
00:43:21:09 - 00:43:22:16
They stick together, they.
00:43:22:16 - 00:43:24:02
Stay together like they stick together.
00:43:24:02 - 00:43:26:00
So you can't do anything.
00:43:26:00 - 00:43:28:12
Without Republican buy in at some point.
00:43:29:05 - 00:43:30:10
So.
00:43:30:18 - 00:43:31:21
If we can get to the point where
00:43:31:21 - 00:43:34:07
we're not emotional about this
00:43:34:07 - 00:43:35:17
and we figure out how we're
00:43:35:17 - 00:43:37:15
moving in a strategic manner,
00:43:37:15 - 00:43:38:06
I'm all for it
00:43:38:06 - 00:43:39:03
because there are some things
00:43:39:03 - 00:43:39:23
you can get accomplished
00:43:39:23 - 00:43:41:06
when you get both parties on board,
00:43:41:06 - 00:43:42:20
and that's where we need to go.
00:43:42:20 - 00:43:44:07
And I would love to be
00:43:44:07 - 00:43:44:19
the only thing I didn't
00:43:44:19 - 00:43:45:19
like about the current.
00:43:46:19 - 00:43:48:19
The current debate in the last election
00:43:49:00 - 00:43:49:16
was that, you know,
00:43:49:16 - 00:43:50:18
Trump was so far like,
00:43:50:18 - 00:43:51:13
I was like, All right,
00:43:51:13 - 00:43:51:22
there's some things
00:43:51:22 - 00:43:52:21
I'm not going to compromise.
00:43:52:21 - 00:43:53:07
Like,
00:43:53:07 - 00:43:55:09
he talks about us like we nonexistent
00:43:55:09 - 00:43:57:10
in, but like, I think Kanye,
00:43:57:10 - 00:43:58:21
I think Kanye to the point?
00:43:58:21 - 00:43:59:17
But I never really.
00:43:59:17 - 00:44:02:14
Went after Kanye and says this or that
00:44:02:21 - 00:44:04:18
because I'm assuming Kanye.
00:44:04:18 - 00:44:06:19
Either one has some type of strategy.
00:44:06:19 - 00:44:07:19
Even if it was helping
00:44:07:19 - 00:44:09:21
his brand like he went out there
00:44:09:21 - 00:44:10:17
and did some stuff,
00:44:10:17 - 00:44:11:21
and I don't agree with it.
00:44:11:21 - 00:44:13:01
But like black people
00:44:13:01 - 00:44:15:10
could have a different opinion. It's OK.
00:44:15:10 - 00:44:16:03
It's like,
00:44:16:21 - 00:44:18:00
OK, it's OK.
00:44:18:00 - 00:44:18:14
Like,
00:44:18:16 - 00:44:20:13
he could have a different opinion for me,
00:44:20:13 - 00:44:22:09
and I can still respect.
00:44:22:09 - 00:44:23:14
Respect his opinions.
00:44:23:14 - 00:44:23:20
You know,
00:44:23:20 - 00:44:25:03
I respect his opinion, and I can.
00:44:25:03 - 00:44:26:06
Still respect everything
00:44:26:06 - 00:44:27:22
he's done and not write him
00:44:27:22 - 00:44:28:16
and cancel them off
00:44:28:16 - 00:44:30:09
because I don't agree with his.
00:44:30:09 - 00:44:32:16
Vote, even no matter how controversial.
00:44:32:20 - 00:44:33:13
Like,
00:44:33:13 - 00:44:35:01
because Kanye is also done
00:44:35:01 - 00:44:35:15
a body work,
00:44:35:15 - 00:44:36:12
a lot of people
00:44:36:12 - 00:44:38:00
criticizing him haven't done
00:44:38:00 - 00:44:39:13
half the things he's done.
00:44:39:13 - 00:44:41:13
For the black community. At all. Period.
00:44:41:13 - 00:44:43:10
At all like,
00:44:43:10 - 00:44:45:15
And the fact that he became a billionaire
00:44:45:24 - 00:44:46:21
doing it like,
00:44:46:21 - 00:44:47:16
you know what I mean, like.
00:44:47:16 - 00:44:48:20
So he's helped and employed.
00:44:48:20 - 00:44:49:19
A lot of black people, too.
00:44:49:19 - 00:44:51:18
So like. At the end of the day, and then.
00:44:51:18 - 00:44:52:08
He realized
00:44:52:08 - 00:44:53:18
and he realized what he needed
00:44:53:18 - 00:44:54:20
to get into them rooms
00:44:54:20 - 00:44:56:19
like you can't get into certain rooms
00:44:56:19 - 00:44:58:14
unless you do have that b behind
00:44:58:14 - 00:45:00:15
your price tag, you know, like.
00:45:01:00 - 00:45:01:16
Any leverage to.
00:45:01:16 - 00:45:02:23
Get there off of off of
00:45:02:23 - 00:45:04:10
just the hustle in his day.
00:45:04:10 - 00:45:05:05
I think Kanye,
00:45:05:05 - 00:45:06:08
no matter what I don't agree with everything,
00:45:06:08 - 00:45:07:19
but Kanye's a genius man
00:45:07:19 - 00:45:08:16
Genius man.
00:45:08:17 - 00:45:10:16
He is high level.
00:45:10:16 - 00:45:12:17
Next level genius.
00:45:12:18 - 00:45:14:07
And I would definitely sit down
00:45:14:07 - 00:45:15:23
have nothing but respect
00:45:15:23 - 00:45:17:14
for what he's accomplished and his vision
00:45:17:14 - 00:45:18:18
and what he's done.
00:45:18:20 - 00:45:21:04
So a final question.
00:45:21:04 - 00:45:23:11
You have a billboard
00:45:23:11 - 00:45:25:09
or Google ad that
00:45:25:09 - 00:45:26:21
that summarizes your, your
00:45:28:02 - 00:45:30:08
statement or your belief.
00:45:30:08 - 00:45:31:06
Or you're saying in life,
00:45:31:06 - 00:45:32:19
what does that say?
00:45:33:12 - 00:45:36:03
Nobody's bigger than the business.
00:45:36:03 - 00:45:38:15
Nobody's bigger than the business.
00:45:38:15 - 00:45:40:00
And I think I stick to that
00:45:40:00 - 00:45:41:06
because again,
00:45:41:06 - 00:45:42:08
this is how we want to create
00:45:42:08 - 00:45:43:09
our generational wealth
00:45:43:09 - 00:45:44:04
We want to pass this
00:45:44:04 - 00:45:45:24
from generation to generation.
00:45:45:24 - 00:45:48:18
So you've got to make that your plateau
00:45:49:01 - 00:45:50:09
and you got to support that
00:45:50:09 - 00:45:51:20
and you've got to put that in place.
00:45:51:20 - 00:45:53:22
Make sure that that stays strong
00:45:53:22 - 00:45:55:05
and keep pushing forward.
00:45:55:05 - 00:45:58:04
So that would probably be like huge for me
00:45:58:04 - 00:46:00:00
is that nobody's bigger than a brand,
00:46:00:00 - 00:46:02:09
nobody's bigger than the business
00:46:02:09 - 00:46:03:12
Cool! Kern Alexander it's been a pleasure
00:46:03:12 - 00:46:04:19
to have you on Disruption Now.
00:46:04:19 - 00:46:05:09
Appreciate you man.
00:46:05:09 - 00:46:06:18
Definitely thank you so much.
00:46:06:18 - 00:46:07:12
Thank you for having me.
00:46:07:12 - 00:46:09:05
You guys have a great night. Thank you.
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Kim Welter is CEO of KLW Consulting, LLC which supports LGBTQ and affiliated advocacy organizations with HR, finance, diversity & Inclusion, board and policy expertise. Her primary client since 2016 is Equality Ohio where she holds the responsibilities of Director of Finance and Policy after previously serving as Deputy Director and Director of Programs and Outreach while on staff. She also briefly served as interim Executive Director; with over thirteen years of experience with the organization, she is Equality Ohio’s most seasoned consultant. She joined the organization as staff in 2008 after serving as the Executive Director of Equality Toledo for over 2 years. A graduate of University of Michigan, she got her secondary teaching certificate through the University of Findlay and her Master of Arts and Education from the University of Toledo where she taught composition for 3 years. Kim is a 2009/2010 graduate of the Center for Progressive Leadership. In 2010, Kim took a leave of absence from Equality Ohio to serve as Campaign Manager for the ONE Bowling Green Campaign in Bowling Green, Ohio which successfully defended two local non-discrimination ordinances from a ballot initiative to repeal. In 2019, Kim completed her Capstone Project to earn a Certificate in LGBTQ Juvenile Justice as a fellow with the Center for Juvenile Justice Reform out of Georgetown University. She lives in Columbus, Ohio with her wife and pets.
Jerry has had a long career in in social services beginning in 1975 at The Hamilton County Welfare Department, the precursor to Hamilton County Jobs And Family Services. This association ended October 1995. Jerry joined Caracole Inc. in 2000 as an Assistant Housing Manager working with HIV positive individuals with drug recovery issues. While at Caracole, Jerry began working at Central Community Health Board in the Early Prevention Intervention Project unit (EPIP) as an HIV Prevention Educator educating the Hamilton Community in various venues. The Caracole position ended in 2004 with the EPIP position becoming a full time position with more job duties to include HIV prevention outreach, facilitating the support group Positive Soulz, and advocating on behalf of HIV individuals with other agencies, Jerry has also participated on various health related boards such as The Cincinnati Health Board, The Cincinnati Primary Clinic Board and is still involved with The Cincinnati Health Network as the Co-Chair. Jerry is a proud product of the Cincinnati Public School District and is a graduate of Cincinnati State College and Xavier University. Jerry is actively involved in the community organization NEXUS, a gardening sustainability program. Jerry is also involved in a genealogy organization African American Genealogy Group of Kentucky (AAGGKY) as a member and currently as President. Jerry’s hobbies also include traveling, history, music and photography.
Dr. Fichtenbaum's expertise is in clinical research in infectious diseases, in particular complications of HIV, antiretroviral therapy, dyslipidemia and cardiovascular disease. Dr. Fichtenbaum is Principal Investigator of the AIDS Clinical Trials Unit at UC. He is Principal Investigator of Sexually Transmitted Infections Grant. He is board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases. Dr. Fichtenbaum has been elected as a Fellow to the American College of Physicians, HIV Medical Association, and Infectious Diseases Society of America. His published works include approximately more than 100 articles, 75 abstracts and various reviews, book chapters and letters.
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