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Racism, sexism, and a myriad

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of other biases exist.

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They exist. They are real.

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The people that think
that they don't exist anymore are wrong.

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But at the same time, the people that make

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that their identity are also wrong.

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If you believe
we can change the narrative.

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If you believe,
we can change our communities.

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If you believe we can change the outcomes
and we can change the world.

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I'm Rob Richardson.

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Welcome to disruption. Now.

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Welcome to disruption now.

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I'm your host and moderator,
Rob Richardson.

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With me is my brother,
my friend Cyrus Harbin.

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You've probably known him.

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He's all over the place.
Tech is the new black.

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He's really disrupting what it means to be
in tech because tech is the new black.

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So I really, I really,

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I really like the fact that he is showing
that anything is possible.

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All we got to do is change
and disrupt our own mindset.

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Cyrus, good to have you on, brother.

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Yeah, man, great to be on.

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I've been looking forward to this.

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Yeah, me too man. And,
that a big fan of yours?

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I told I told you offline.

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And I want to give you our
give you your praises in public.

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Like, I've learned a lot from you,
just about how you do content

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creation, and how to go about being more
organized about it.

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So, I want to say thank you
because you are one of the best.

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And I'm sure, I'm sure
we're going to be doing more together.

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Man, I love it.

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Yeah. So let's get right.

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So let's actually get right to it.
Tech is a new black.

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I know you've come from, from a journey
that you weren't in tech.

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I think you were in the.

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You were in the military,

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and you were actually, I think a Lyft
or an Uber driver at one point.

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And then you made a transition into tech,

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and now you have a whole platform
that is empowering people to be in tech.

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if you had to say, like in one sentence
or very short,

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what is the purpose of tech
as a new black?

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Yeah.

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So the purpose of tech is a new black
is to highlight, no matter what industry

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you're in, no matter what your background
is, no matter what your goals are,

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tech needs to be involved
in some capacity, whether career,

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whether business it needs to be involved
or you will be obsolete.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think that's something that, you
know, that people really underestimate.

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And I think there's there's this
there's just just this stereotype

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that it's okay to like,
oh, technical stuff is for somebody else.

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That's not for me.

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When people tell you that stuff
I've seen you heard a lot.

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I could tell you hear it a lot.

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Like people say, well,
I leave that to somebody else.

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Like, I don't I don't need to understand
that, that, that, that tech stuff.

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When people say stuff to you
like that, what's your combat?

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I'm, I it's heartbreaking to hear that

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because, I mean, what we've seen it
time and time again throughout history.

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We've seen people who, oh, the
the car is just a fad, you know, nothing's

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going to replace the horse and carriages,
you know, even even the internet itself.

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Like what we're on right now.

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People thought this was a fad,
and now this internet

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thing is just a fad in the 90s.

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And of course, when the.com,
bubble happened,

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it further
gave that those people ammunition.

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And look at where we're at now.

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And same thing with social media
and the list goes on and on.

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So when I hear people say that now,
immediately I'm able to see that

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that as a species, we haven't
fully evolved from that thinking.

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That is just
there is some people that have evolved,

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that thinking, other people
that will hold onto it, but then others

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that will at least be open minded enough
to allow themselves to evolve.

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Yeah.

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I also think that's it's
a, it's a defense mechanism

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to feeling like they're
because they don't understand it.

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People just shut down. Right.

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So there are
I think there's some of that there.

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and I think it's overly like complicated.
It is.

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So if,
if someone if you're talking to someone

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and they're saying like, look, tech
is too difficult, it's for those really,

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really, really smart people that I believe

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some of this is tied to self esteem, like,
and things like that.

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That's what.

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Yeah.

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What is their first step
if you had to advise them.

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Like what is the first step
to to getting into tech,

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what would that look like for
someone who is non-technical?

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Well, first we have to look at okay, what
what is the goal?

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Most people's, goal is to increase their,
their income, their net worth.

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And so if that's your goal, I'm
very blunt, very straightforward.

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It's like, okay, look across the different
jobs that you can do in tech.

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Because going back to what you're saying
earlier,

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sometimes someone would think,
oh, you have to be highly technical.

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Well, that's speaking of only
half the roles in the industry.

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There are a myriad of roles
in the industry

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that don't require
any technical aptitude at all.

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Some do require some technical aptitude

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and others, of course,
that are very technical.

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So if someone's goal, most people's goal
is, hey, okay, this is a job, a career,

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a business, whatever it might be.

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So at the end of the day,
your ROI is your bottom line.

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So if that's the case,
look at the various roles that I would say

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pay, whether starting out or even scaling
wise, the most amount of money

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you can get, the most bang for your buck
or the most bang for your time.

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And once you find those roles, simply put,

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just look at a brief description
of each of them.

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And I'm of the belief that you don't
necessarily need to love your job,

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but as long as you're doing something that
you don't hate, that should be the goal

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that yeah, even today,
the thing that we should love is

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what is what we can do with that money,
whether it's taking care of our family,

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whether it's setting ourselves up
for freedom in the future

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so that being said, finding roles
that you can see yourself doing

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and then in terms of actually
getting the education

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and of course, we're in a different day
and age now.

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We don't need to go to college
to get in in the, the tech industry or,

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or high level roles
that are adjacent to the tech industry.

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I don't have a college degree.

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You can get education
either via a bootcamp

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or some type of shorter,
much more affordable ed tech program.

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so that's the best route to to get in.

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I would die on that hill. Yeah.

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So what's the most important skill
to have once you enter tech?

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What do you think that is.

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The most important skill
to have in the industry?

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So I was actually say two I'll,
I'll be a little, a little greedy

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and that's okay. You could be greedy down
here. Good. Yeah, yeah.

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the most important skill first
and foremost is work ethic.

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because no matter what you're doing
in the industry, you know,

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business owners are not paying you,

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a high salary just to be nice.

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They're doing it
because they are expecting you

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to be a person that is diligent
and that you are a grown adult

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and they're not there to hold your hand.

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They're expecting you
to do what you need to do.

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So first and foremost,
making sure that you are a hard worker.

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Whenever I see people that I know
that they're not a hard worker,

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I don't encourage them
to get into the industry.

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I encourage them to,
as you mentioned earlier,

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make sure you have a mindset shift, okay?

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You need to shift your mindset,
shift your habits,

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really ultimately shift who you are.

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So first and foremost, having work ethic.

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The second piece to that is having
a student mentality, meaning that you're

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a constant learner and this industry
is very similar in a sense to the,

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you know, being an attorney
or being a medical doctor.

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And what I mean by
that is the image of a good medical doctor

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never stopped study because practices,
new procedures, new laws

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that change, new medicines that they
constantly, even sometimes have to work,

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might have to do about 30 minutes

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to an hour of study to kind of stay,
stay on top of these things, right.

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You're a lawyer, you get a new case.
The laws are changing.

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You have to keep up with the law.

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I'm a lawyer for a reforming lawyer.

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I said, you know,
it's like doing homework for a living.

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Because it's true. Yeah. Okay,
so this is perfect.

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So you know, everybody, all y'all need,
y'all can literally see that.

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You know what I'm saying
is, you know, truthful

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based on his background and experience.

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So that being said
this industry is very similar

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where you need to have
that study mentality.

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So yeah, be a hard worker.

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But also understand that in order
to stay on top of this, of this industry

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and the trends is that you do need
to make sure you have a student mentality,

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both in terms
of being willing to learn from others,

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but also making sure that you are a self
learner yourself.

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Yeah.

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Rodney Williams, who's been on this show,

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has been on this podcast
a couple of times.

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And as a multi, entrepreneur in tech,
very well known, he's

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also coming to Midwest side as well as
Cyrus is coming to Midwest Con as well.

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he started a solo funds and before

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that he started listener
like using sound to detect data.

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but he said this on my podcast,
and I never forgot it.

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He said the most important skill
is to learn how to learn.

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Right. And and like to really.

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And I was like, that's,
that's really that to me was key.

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And I was talking to my cousin
who was like my

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who was basically like my son,
I'm taking care of him.

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And I was I was going through with him
this morning, I was listening,

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I was going through an audiobook with him
about financial freedom.

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And I was telling him,
do you know what that means?

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When I talked about financial literacy?

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And he said, I can look it up.

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I said, well,
you can't look up how to think.

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So you need to understand

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and really understand how to think,
because that's going to be the difference.

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You already said it right.

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As technology evolves, like it's not
going to be enough for you to sit at a job

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and just do something
that can be automated, including finance,

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including law.

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Like you have to be able
to learn how to learn.

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Yeah,

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that's what it is.

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So I would ask
you like to me it's, it's you say

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like change that mindset of who you are
and it's changing habits,

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which are very hard to do
because we have a lot of bad habits.

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And right now I'm talking about black
community in general, like in terms of.

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But everybody has some bad habits.

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But right now focusing on us.

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Yeah.

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Like who when it comes to establishing
a good, a good habit over a bad habit,

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what do you think
is the most important place

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to start in terms
of creating a good habit?

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What's the habit that you found
is most successful for you?

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Let's go to that direction.

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Because I like because like there are
certain habits and routines that help

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stabilize or make it one, or help
someone's success.

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What has been most impactful for you?

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What is that 1 or 2 habits
that's made all the difference?

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Yeah, I would say, first and foremost,
the people that you surround yourself

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with, I mean, you know,
there are multiple quotes,

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whether, you know, proverbs from the Bible
or other, Or Nipsey Hussle.

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Nipsey Hussle got one, two.
You know that, right?

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Let's see, is.

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Here's is this like, if you
and I've got to paraphrase a little bit,

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he said, if you hang around,

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if you hang around ten broken girls,
you're gonna be the 11th.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like that. Yes.

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the first thing definitely is
the people that you are around.

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And so I even even myself,
when I was a kid living,

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living in a ghetto, living in government,
government, assisted, housing.

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One of the things that

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helped me even early on,
they started dropping the the bread crumbs

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that the seeds
that eventually are now sprouting

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was that even though I was living
in a certain environment,

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I didn't really hang
with the people in that environment.

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I actually would oftentimes leave.

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I would get, picked up by these
there's church groups that would take me

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to a nicer part of town,
and early on, just being around it,

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there was a stark contrast
between the way that they spoke, the way

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that they treated each other,

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the the things that they like
to talk about versus when I would be back,

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when I would go back home,

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and the things that people
in my neighborhood or even in

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my household were talking about,
the way that they thought.

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So I would say the first thing
is definitely looking at, okay,

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who you are hanging around
and their mindset,

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even if they're not financially savvy
at the time.

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Again, it's more of it's
more of them having goals

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and having aspirations and also the things
that they are spending their time doing.

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so first off, I would say people.

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The second thing is
what are your actual habits now?

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Again, having certain people in your life
will encourage you to work on your habits

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because you will see the things
they're working on and naturally,

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by default
is going to inspire you to do the same.

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So so the next thing is those habits.

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What are your actual habits and
looking at okay, what am I actually doing.

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You know, so for example, I remember where

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I would spend
just ample amount of time on YouTube

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and I would just be

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watching videos breaking down things
happening in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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or in the DC or comic books,
things like that.

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And I would spend hours doing that.

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One of my friends told me,
because I ended up becoming a huge nerd

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in about a span of six months, and he was
like, when Sirius, you're such a sponge.

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Because, I mean, I realized if you shifted

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your time from from learning
all of this comic book stuff,

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if you shifted that habit into something
else, you could master any other topic.

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And I'm not unique in that aspect.

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Most of us that's that's.

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That that's the human brain,
like literally.

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So there's a book that on this
I think is about the power of habit.

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You can't actually get rid of habits.

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You can only replace a bad habit
with a good one.

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So that, that that backs up
what you're saying.

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Yeah, precisely.

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And so that point,
one of the books that I started,

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I started reading that I was a person
that wasn't reading many books.

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So one great habit is to read books
people talk about,

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no matter how advanced
we are getting in society and technology

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books, education is a key factor
in the most successful.

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People aren't successful
just because they read books.

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They're successful
because they continue to still read books.

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It's the habit of what you do. Yep.

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And so so the education piece.

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So again, changing those habits, shifting
what it is you're doing,

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you know, there's so many people

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and talking about us, many,
many people that look like

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us, we'll spend so much time
on the Shade Room or so much time

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looking at gossip blogs or, or watching
reality TV where it's full of drama

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and nothing's wrong with education
and a consistent education.

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Entertainment tip.

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And balance? Yes. And balance.

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But in reality, it's made,
you know, if you shift that now,

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now what happens
is that when when people are shifted,

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they're thinking, man,
this is boring reading these books.

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Yeah, this is boring doing this thing.

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But what's actually unique
about about human beings, the way

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that we've been designed is that if we do,
if we continue to stay at something

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and continue to go the path, eventually
our brains start to get tricked.

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Right?

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And what's the reason why I can seem to do
this thing that I don't like?

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Must be because deep down,
I actually like it.

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That's right.

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So like, it's it's it's like
it's like working out our our fitness.

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That's right.
Most people do not like running.

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But if you stay dedicated
to being a runner,

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eventually
over time you will get a runner's high.

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And that's true.

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And the reverse is true too, right?

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So if you stay in a mindset
where you don't grow,

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you struggle at things,
you don't try anything new.

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You assume that I'm not smart, I can't be
technical, I can't do these things.

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And so you hack your brain in another way
that most of us don't understand.

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Like you said, subconsciously,

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because we got the wrong habits
and so really fundamental point.

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And I think what you're saying,
I agree is the first, the first step is

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who the hell are you around
everyone, right.

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Because there's scientific evidence
to back up everything you're saying

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when you talk about
who you're around influences who you are.

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Like, we got the biblical,
we got the sayings.

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But then there's also
then there's also the fact that we have

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scientific evidence that shows that
the people you surround yourself with,

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even if you try to think differently
from them, your brain

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literally rewires itself
to think like the group.

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Man. That's true.

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That's scientifically true.

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It's been proven.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So you yeah.

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So I love that. And I love

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the component where we talk about
getting in this industry,

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scaling in this industry that I've seen
people get in this industry.

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especially we're talking about people
that look like us where they,

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they started their habits
to get in the industry,

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but then they quickly divert it
back to their old habits.

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Their old group of people started
hanging around certain people.

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One of the things that I noticed
when I got in the industry and online,

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when people started being able
to look at visible things and be like,

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hey, it looks like
this guy is making a bunch of money.

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I started getting invited
and it's still do to this day.

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Get invited to all of the
the mansion parties

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and with all of the influencers,
lifestyle influencers

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and what I started to notice,

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I had to pull back
because a lot of them are great people.

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But I realized, okay, you know what?

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They make their money different.

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They have different life.

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Yeah.

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And and I'm not going to say whether or
not what they're doing will continue to,

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to go up or not.

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Nevertheless, I realized, okay,
they don't have certain habits

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that allow me to get to where

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I'm at, and I'm noticing
that it's starting to rub off on me.

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So I had some pull back because I had to
realize, oh, I won't maintain this.

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Just because I got this doesn't
mean I'm going to.

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Know what got you there
won't get you there. Yep.

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Yeah, exactly. Precisely.

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And so I think one of the biggest things
within our, our culture,

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in our community when it comes to
getting in this industry is understanding

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that we are more than intelligent enough,
we are more than capable,

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but a lot of it comes back to what

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we've associated ourselves
to, that we consider our culture.

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And unfortunately we have

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we've accepted bad habits,
and we say that that's our culture.

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Instead of realizing
that these bad habits are not our culture,

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we cannot say that our culture is
necessarily these negative things.

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We have to separate these things
from our culture.

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I mean, we've seen many of our Latino
brothers and sisters

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that have been doing
a really good job of that,

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where many of the things that happen
that are seen to happen in the black

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community happen in their communities
as well.

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Nevertheless,
you see more and more of their community

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leaving that behind and saying,
no, no, no, that's not our culture.

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Those are things that happen
in some of our communities,

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but that is not our culture.

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We want to allow ourselves to associate
our culture with those things.

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They've been doing a phenomenal job
in terms of making those advancements,

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and I am excited to see us
do the exact same thing.

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Well,

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and I believe
not just being in this industry,

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but again,

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going back to the things we talk about
when it comes to mindset,

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when it comes to hanging around
different people,

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those are the stepping stones
for us to get there.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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So, I'm curious to,
what you think about some future trends

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coming up in future disruptions
or really current disruptions.

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And of course, I'm talking about I like,
what do you see,

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let's say in 2040, what do you see

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as the best case scenario when it comes to
AI in the black community?

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And what is the worst case scenario?

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So best case scenario,

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I don't believe there's ever been
a better time

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for for our community to be able to.

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I don't even want to use the term
generational well,

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because I think that's that's
such an overused cliche, cliche term.

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I don't believe there's ever been

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a time, a better time for us
to truly be able to advance.

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And like, I look over at the
the Indian community and,

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you know, Japanese Americans,
Indian Americans, Nigerian Americans

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and how they have advanced
to, you know, they've advanced to where

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now they're out
earning the average white American. Yep.

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a huge part of that reason.

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The majority of the reason
is because the two industries

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they all pursue
is the medical field and the tech field.

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And so within that, the same way

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they've been able to advance and grow
and level up, with within this nation,

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we have that same opportunity,
but even more now with AI,

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because there are very few

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AI experts in AI in and of itself,

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in terms of the advancements
of what's happening with generative AI.

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You know, we can list
a bunch of companies, a bunch of different

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companies, but nevertheless, it's
something that is not just new in a sense,

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but also it's still changing
and evolving so quickly that even

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the experts are not experts in a sense,
let's say on top of the changes.

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So now what does this mean for us?

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This means we we have an opportunity to
become the experts with within two years.

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Everyone watching
this can be an expert in the space.

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And of course, being an expert
in this space isn't just a cute thing.

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There is a monetary,
a monetary benefit attached to that.

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Absolutely.

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It is a, a success in a variety of ways
that are attached to that.

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So whether we're talking someone
getting a career, whether leveraging

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AI, prompting AI, using AI, even
within their role in becoming a thought

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leader in their respective,
field of work, that's one one set.

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But then we can go on the other end

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and talk about equity,
where now we have different,

00:20:26,898 --> 00:20:31,732
startups and, and tech companies
that where their foundation is AI.

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They might even consider themselves in AI,
company or startup.

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Where now you getting at a company
that has a promising future?

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Of course,
there's no guarantee that a company

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is going to be an Nvidia,
but nevertheless, it's unlikely.

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But that's not the goal. That's fine.
That's a that's an aspiration.

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But the goal is freedom and options.

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And you don't need to

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you don't need to be a billionaire
to have freedom in options.

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Exactly, precisely.

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And so so not only do we have the
the opportunity in terms of career wise,

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but also in terms of equity within,
within, these, these promising companies,

00:21:02,198 --> 00:21:05,898
where of course, when the company goes
public or whatever, just the overall

00:21:05,898 --> 00:21:09,198
returns are that how much of a blessing
that can be sent to us and our families.

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But then we have the other layer,
we have the layer of

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we can become founders of our own
AI startups.

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Now, I'm not going to recommend
someone who doesn't have any experience

00:21:20,932 --> 00:21:23,298
in the tech industry
to try to do that next week.

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Nevertheless, again,
we have a positioning to where

00:21:26,465 --> 00:21:29,765
whether you're getting in this industry
or you are just getting the education

00:21:29,765 --> 00:21:30,732
that's within this industry,

00:21:32,065 --> 00:21:32,998
we have a

00:21:32,998 --> 00:21:36,932
foreseeable future that if we
if we take advantage of this opportunity,

00:21:37,098 --> 00:21:42,932
that's within front of us, the year 2040,
we can be in the top three earners

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in the United States of America,
completely transforming our lives

00:21:46,298 --> 00:21:49,498
and ultimately benefiting
the entire nation because, as you know,

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a rising tide raises assets as we grow.

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It benefits the entire nation.

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So that's the best case scenario? Yes.

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Then I'm excited about worst case scenario

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is that we're in in a ten times
worse position than we're in now,

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because when we look at many of the lower,

00:22:10,598 --> 00:22:15,631
not just lower pain paying jobs,
but also jobs where

00:22:16,665 --> 00:22:20,398
it's it's not favorable
jobs, we'll say like.

00:22:20,731 --> 00:22:23,665
but but even the
if I can I know what you mean.

00:22:23,665 --> 00:22:26,665
You're talking about working class
repetitive jobs.

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That's true.

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I would also say, though,

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there's a lot of jobs that traditionally
were considered that we consider safe.

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That will also be a challenge to.

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So just because you're like it,
you're going to be an average accountant.

00:22:38,665 --> 00:22:39,098
It's probably

00:22:39,098 --> 00:22:42,931
gonna be rough for you because I can
I can use data and just say and do that.

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Right.

00:22:43,331 --> 00:22:45,898
If you're an average accountant now,
if you're a good accountant

00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:49,965
or you're a good lawyer, you're good,
but no one's going to hire you as a lawyer

00:22:49,965 --> 00:22:52,698
to figure out how to do a basic filing.
Like, why?

00:22:52,698 --> 00:22:53,331
Like, yeah.

00:22:53,331 --> 00:22:56,265
Like I can literally look at GPT, ask

00:22:56,265 --> 00:22:59,298
some questions, Google,
do a little bit of work and save $10,000

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like no one is paying you $10,000 to file
to file their paperwork to be a company.

00:23:04,098 --> 00:23:05,031
At least I hope they don't.

00:23:05,031 --> 00:23:06,498
I don't think that's going to happen
anymore.

00:23:06,498 --> 00:23:06,798
Right.

00:23:06,798 --> 00:23:10,298
So it's got to be you got I think
everybody got to level their game up.

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This is definitely a different world.
That's what I think.

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You know I agree 1%.

00:23:13,531 --> 00:23:15,731
so the worst case scenario

00:23:16,731 --> 00:23:18,198
though because that that accountant

00:23:18,198 --> 00:23:21,931
that account that they will be replaced
at some point.

00:23:22,598 --> 00:23:26,165
They have best case and worst case
scenario to where that slowly

00:23:26,298 --> 00:23:30,431
and learn a lot of this technology,
these tools to where now

00:23:30,431 --> 00:23:34,665
instead of them being replaced now
they are it's it's kind of Willy Wonka.

00:23:34,665 --> 00:23:37,665
Think of what happened in where

00:23:38,298 --> 00:23:42,098
not not the one controlling the chocolate
factory was the second one was, it was,

00:23:42,665 --> 00:23:45,198
Johnny, Johnny Depp was playing
Willy Wonka.

00:23:45,198 --> 00:23:48,831
There was something that happened
in the movie with, which Charlie's

00:23:48,831 --> 00:23:52,198
grandfather, uncle, where he lost his job.

00:23:52,231 --> 00:23:54,365
He lost his job to a robot.

00:23:54,365 --> 00:23:58,365
Oh. Like they had some automation that
replaced his job at the end of the movie.

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You know, they had to wrap everything up
with a with a nice bow and make it cute

00:24:01,298 --> 00:24:05,665
at the end of the movie, his his happy
ending, his uncle or grandfather's

00:24:05,665 --> 00:24:08,665
happy ending was that, hey,
he actually got a better job.

00:24:08,731 --> 00:24:14,065
His new job is he's fixing the robot
that replaced him whenever it breaks down.

00:24:14,298 --> 00:24:16,265
So I'm I'm getting paid more.

00:24:16,265 --> 00:24:18,865
That's where we are at right now.

00:24:18,865 --> 00:24:22,198
We are either have the opportunity
to be the person where, okay,

00:24:22,198 --> 00:24:26,531
we are implementing the technology,
we're investing in the technology,

00:24:26,531 --> 00:24:30,665
or we're creating the technology
or we will be replaced by it.

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And even when we talk
about our communities

00:24:34,698 --> 00:24:37,498
that are that are in poverty,
that are living in the great

00:24:38,931 --> 00:24:41,931
many of them, going back to the whole head
in the sand type of thing,

00:24:42,198 --> 00:24:45,831
they are seeing these things on
social media and they're just like, again,

00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:47,165
they're just thinking it's a fad.

00:24:47,165 --> 00:24:49,031
They're thinking, okay,
we don't have to worry about it.

00:24:49,031 --> 00:24:51,131
We have to think about it.
This is going to go away.

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Worst case scenario,
many of us, I'm sure many people that are

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that are in watching this are familiar
with the term universal basic income.

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This is not a theoretical thing,
this sustainable wealth, government,

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as well as some of the top tech
leaders, industry leaders, billionaires

00:25:09,998 --> 00:25:14,431
are all discussing because they know
that this is a guaranteed future

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where essentially on on average,
the way that I look at it

00:25:18,665 --> 00:25:22,431
is that it reminds me of when I was a kid
and I was living in government assisted,

00:25:22,565 --> 00:25:26,565
housing and neighborhoods
essentially went to basic level.

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That's what
we would be looking looking at,

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where now we're not talking about 10%
or 20%.

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We're talking about 50, 60% of Americans
living that way, where we talk about,

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you know, the, the,
the middle class being destroyed,

00:25:41,865 --> 00:25:44,631
it really will destroy the middle class
where you are either

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rich, super rich, or you are in poverty
or living on universal basic income.

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So worst case scenario that I see for us

00:25:52,565 --> 00:25:56,198
is that we lose any opportunity to invest

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in this, technology in these companies.

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We lose opportunity
to even work in this industry.

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We lose any type of of network,
connections,

00:26:06,298 --> 00:26:10,698
resources to even be able
to create our own AI startups.

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Or it might be something else
that's going on a robotics startup,

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whatever that might be.

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So again, we are in the best,
best time right now because.

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We are at the best time.

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I would say,

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because

00:26:23,065 --> 00:26:26,198
because I ask politicians this question
too, in terms of what's your best case?

00:26:26,198 --> 00:26:27,465
What's your worst case scenario?

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Because, the problem I have is a lot of
our political leaders have no clue.

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Zero clue, like they have zero knowledge,
like they're at like minus ten.

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And it's a problem because, you know,
AI is not new, algorithms are not new.

00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:43,065
And and part of what's happening
and what has happened is that, you know,

00:26:43,065 --> 00:26:45,098
they're being used to divide
and manipulate.

00:26:45,098 --> 00:26:48,365
and right now
it is the greatest opportunity I agree,

00:26:48,698 --> 00:26:50,331
but it won't stay that way.

00:26:50,331 --> 00:26:52,398
And I'm gonna give one quick example
as we go,

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as we get ready to go towards wrapping up,
when Facebook first started.

00:26:56,398 --> 00:26:59,365
So we've been to,
multiple levels of the internet.

00:26:59,365 --> 00:27:02,265
So just give me one second because people
need to understand this, right?

00:27:02,265 --> 00:27:05,731
First we went through the basic
where was just a basic interactive.

00:27:05,731 --> 00:27:08,731
We couldn't do much except for C,
the website have something on there.

00:27:08,998 --> 00:27:13,298
Then we went to this read and write back
and forth the centralized mostly the phase

00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:14,931
we're in right now where it's

00:27:14,931 --> 00:27:17,798
where it's like, you know,
you get a chance to do social media.

00:27:17,798 --> 00:27:20,331
Facebook was created, Airbnb.

00:27:20,331 --> 00:27:25,331
These folks created a lot of data,
which is all been used to train

00:27:25,465 --> 00:27:27,498
artificial intelligence. Okay.

00:27:27,498 --> 00:27:30,198
And now we have a new opportunity
to build new apps

00:27:30,198 --> 00:27:33,298
within these artificial intelligence,
old models.

00:27:33,298 --> 00:27:33,565
Right.

00:27:33,565 --> 00:27:36,965
And OpenAI and others,
when Facebook first started out.

00:27:36,965 --> 00:27:38,598
Cyrus, you may or may not know this, that

00:27:38,598 --> 00:27:41,598
a lot of businesses became
like millionaires quickly by building

00:27:41,598 --> 00:27:44,598
quick APIs into Facebook,
into these other platforms.

00:27:44,865 --> 00:27:46,098
And they made a lot of money.

00:27:46,098 --> 00:27:47,964
But Facebook shut that off

00:27:47,964 --> 00:27:50,298
and then you don't
you can't do a lot of that stuff now.

00:27:50,298 --> 00:27:53,898
and they took out all their data
and then they and they ended up

00:27:53,898 --> 00:27:56,898
finding ways
to keep that data to monetize further.

00:27:56,998 --> 00:28:00,798
Everyone went to just saying,
oh, let me put everything on Facebook

00:28:01,131 --> 00:28:03,564
and that let me understand
and keep these personal connections.

00:28:03,564 --> 00:28:05,164
So I want everybody listen to me.

00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:08,898
Artificial intelligence is neither
artificial nor intelligent, right?

00:28:09,064 --> 00:28:10,598
It can never be authentic.

00:28:10,598 --> 00:28:13,864
And so we got to learn the technology and
use it to help leverage what we're doing.

00:28:15,198 --> 00:28:15,931
That's all I got to say.

00:28:15,931 --> 00:28:19,031
So you you dropped so much heat
right there,

00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:22,398
so much heat and

00:28:22,398 --> 00:28:24,831
and I think to that point,
that's one of the things

00:28:24,831 --> 00:28:28,331
that our community really needs to know
that even when I'm so have

00:28:28,331 --> 00:28:31,398
you said that because even those of us
that are like, okay, let me go ahead

00:28:31,764 --> 00:28:34,998
and and start using this technology,
let me start learning about it.

00:28:35,198 --> 00:28:37,164
It is so important that we understand

00:28:37,164 --> 00:28:41,231
how to make sure that we are keeping data
and keeping in track, and things.

00:28:41,231 --> 00:28:42,764
That we own our own data.

00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:43,531
Yeah, we build on

00:28:43,531 --> 00:28:47,698
private, private source and open sources
to not just the things that are nothing.

00:28:47,698 --> 00:28:50,231
Listen to me, none of this stuff is free.

00:28:50,231 --> 00:28:53,664
The reason why I ChatGPT is free
is because you're the product. Yes.

00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:56,864
Just just just at least understand
that doesn't mean don't use it.

00:28:56,864 --> 00:28:58,464
That means understand it and understand

00:28:58,464 --> 00:29:01,464
how to make sure you're
keeping what you're building.

00:29:01,464 --> 00:29:02,298
Yeah.

00:29:02,298 --> 00:29:03,864
Because that's like, so,

00:29:03,864 --> 00:29:06,931
so last couple of minutes
kind of ask them, so kind of

00:29:06,964 --> 00:29:08,164
little wrap up questions here.

00:29:08,164 --> 00:29:11,598
So what's important
what's an important truth.

00:29:11,598 --> 00:29:13,831
You might have that
few people agree with you on.

00:29:15,398 --> 00:29:16,631
Oh, that's a good question.

00:29:16,631 --> 00:29:18,698
An important truth that I have.

00:29:18,698 --> 00:29:21,464
A few people agree with me on.

00:29:21,464 --> 00:29:26,564
man, this this I, this this is my truth.

00:29:26,564 --> 00:29:29,564
I'm going to stick in it.

00:29:30,498 --> 00:29:33,464
Racism, sexism,

00:29:33,464 --> 00:29:37,998
and a myriad of other biases exist.

00:29:38,998 --> 00:29:40,664
They exist. They are real.

00:29:40,664 --> 00:29:43,664
The people that think
that they don't exist anymore are wrong.

00:29:44,364 --> 00:29:48,898
But at the same time, the people that make
that their identity are also wrong.

00:29:49,298 --> 00:29:53,531
Oh, the people who believe that
we're ever going to reach a point in life

00:29:53,764 --> 00:29:58,398
where racism, sexism, any of these biases
are going to be eliminated.

00:29:58,998 --> 00:29:59,798
Your delusion?

00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,631
Oh, that's something. I truly stand it.

00:30:02,631 --> 00:30:05,731
The best thing is not to focus
on the problem,

00:30:06,098 --> 00:30:09,798
but to focus on, focus on your goals.

00:30:09,798 --> 00:30:11,764
Focus on everything that you're pursuing.

00:30:11,764 --> 00:30:16,898
Because the same way, the same area,
the same hoods and places that I grew up

00:30:16,898 --> 00:30:20,531
in, that I lived at the same people
that I was around where they held

00:30:20,531 --> 00:30:24,464
on to this thing of all the white men,
it's going to is holding us back.

00:30:24,464 --> 00:30:26,231
It's going to keep us down.

00:30:26,231 --> 00:30:30,431
Yes, there is racism in across
government, across corporate, all of that.

00:30:31,098 --> 00:30:34,098
But if you believe that there is a

00:30:34,598 --> 00:30:38,731
a group of people that are hellbent
and focused on keeping you back,

00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:42,731
whether you believe it or you don't
believe it, at the end of the day,

00:30:43,098 --> 00:30:46,798
the results of your life are completely
up to you and what you choose to do,

00:30:47,064 --> 00:30:50,031
so you can continue to focus
on these negative things.

00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:54,064
You go ahead.

00:30:54,064 --> 00:30:56,331
Yeah. You continue
to focus on these negative things.

00:30:56,331 --> 00:30:58,931
Or you can say, the hell with it.

00:30:58,931 --> 00:31:01,698
Whatever's going
on, I'm still going to succeed.

00:31:01,698 --> 00:31:04,031
And I promise you,
if you're the person who says, the hell

00:31:04,031 --> 00:31:07,031
with that, I'm still going to succeed,
you will succeed.

00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:08,764
Yeah. That's good. All right.

00:31:08,764 --> 00:31:10,964
final thing, why are you excited
to be at Midwest Cotton?

00:31:10,964 --> 00:31:12,964
This year?

00:31:12,964 --> 00:31:15,331
I mean, I mean, there's not,
like, one reason.

00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:16,098
There's a few reasons.

00:31:16,098 --> 00:31:17,598
I'll lay out just a few reasons.

00:31:17,598 --> 00:31:22,298
first and foremost is because there are
a lot of great conferences, events

00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:23,364
and things that are happening.

00:31:23,364 --> 00:31:25,798
But specifically when it comes to the,

00:31:25,798 --> 00:31:28,531
the group of people that that you're
putting together, whether we're talking

00:31:28,531 --> 00:31:32,631
not just people that are technology,
it's not just founders, but also people

00:31:32,631 --> 00:31:36,531
that are, our politicians
are in the government side of things.

00:31:36,731 --> 00:31:40,698
It honestly is the perfect,
the perfect marriage,

00:31:40,698 --> 00:31:44,898
if I would say it that way,
in terms of networking, where oftentimes

00:31:44,898 --> 00:31:47,898
if you're at a tech event
and it's just techies,

00:31:47,964 --> 00:31:49,298
it's kind of like you're
in a bit of a bubble,

00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,464
or if you're at a political event

00:31:51,464 --> 00:31:55,031
like you mentioned earlier,
most politicians are not aware

00:31:55,031 --> 00:31:59,331
of like technology in a, in a real sense,
in a real, tangible sense.

00:31:59,731 --> 00:32:02,531
And so what I'm excited about
when it comes to Midwest

00:32:02,531 --> 00:32:06,398
Con is that it's
putting all of the people in the room.

00:32:06,664 --> 00:32:09,764
So that way now we're having conversations
across the table,

00:32:09,898 --> 00:32:13,064
and now we're having real networking,
not networking.

00:32:13,231 --> 00:32:17,598
That's that's just, you know,
that's just kind of like the up and down.

00:32:17,598 --> 00:32:21,098
But in terms of also us being able
to grow across different

00:32:21,098 --> 00:32:24,198
industries and different fields, different
connections, different relationships.

00:32:24,364 --> 00:32:26,631
So that's the thing I'm excited about
because it me person, I'm

00:32:26,631 --> 00:32:27,731
talking about me.

00:32:27,731 --> 00:32:31,531
I've gotten very used to going
to just tech events, right where it's

00:32:31,531 --> 00:32:32,798
just techies.

00:32:32,798 --> 00:32:35,798
And at this point I'm like,
I'm kind of like, all right, what's

00:32:35,798 --> 00:32:39,098
what's really the purpose of this versus
what it has me excited about?

00:32:39,098 --> 00:32:42,098
Midwest con is to meet people
in different industries,

00:32:42,098 --> 00:32:45,264
different spaces, different professions,
different connections.

00:32:45,264 --> 00:32:48,731
Where now I know, okay, I'm going to have
real opportunity, real growth

00:32:48,831 --> 00:32:49,431
being there.

00:32:49,431 --> 00:32:52,431
So that's my
my thing that I'm most excited about.

00:32:52,464 --> 00:32:54,398
Well, we're looking forward to see you.
It's Midwest.

00:32:54,398 --> 00:32:58,198
Can't live if anybody on this broadcast
wants to check it out September

00:32:58,198 --> 00:32:59,564
4th through the six.

00:32:59,564 --> 00:33:01,698
I promise you we're going to have,

00:33:01,698 --> 00:33:05,298
if you want to learn and be train
more, and I we have something for you.

00:33:05,298 --> 00:33:07,364
If you want to learn about policy,
we have some for you.

00:33:07,364 --> 00:33:09,664
If you want to see people
that are disrupting technology

00:33:09,664 --> 00:33:11,531
for social impact,
we have something for you.

00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,698
But we're always about disruptors
like Cyrus.

00:33:13,698 --> 00:33:15,898
And I look forward to being on tech
as a new black as well.

00:33:15,898 --> 00:33:17,631
it's good to have you on disruption.

00:33:17,631 --> 00:33:20,597
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00:33:28,697 --> 00:33:29,931
And Cyrus is always mad.

00:33:29,931 --> 00:33:32,931
I appreciate what you do and look forward
to working with you more, bro.

00:33:33,197 --> 00:33:33,597
Good stuff.

00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:34,864
Thank you so much, Rob.

00:33:34,864 --> 00:33:36,664
Thank you. Appreciate you man. Our.

00:33:39,364 --> 00:33:46,464
I. I, I,